Pre- BUD/S training course??

[BigBlake88]

I just found this site on the internet today,

http://www.sealptcourse.com/BUDS/mainbrochure.htm

has anyone heard of this before?
I has anyone ever attended this course before?
Could anyone give me any information about this?
I am interested, and thinking about doing it in December.

[childofgod]

Never heard of it. I've heard of Sea Cadets, which is a 2 week course simulating BUD/S for minors under 18. I don't have enough money to go to these camps, nor the transportation, so I definately won't be showing up for them any time soon.

[BigBlake88]

i was wondering if anybody that lives in the Houston area has ever heard of this before?

The next one of these camps is in late December on Galveson island, i am serious about going, but it is very expensive, but if it can accuratley reproduce the events of BUD/S , like they say this camp can , it just might be worth it.

[Jhagerman]

My only concern would be, why was he discharged and did he get authority to use the SEAL logo on a personal / business website and apparel? I was under the impression that the Trident was to be worn only by SEALs and the people who respectfully admire them, not for personal profit on a website.

But it looks like it would be a good course - $800 plus buying your own equipment for less than 5 days is rather expensive.

[BigBlake88]

I recently talked to the guy who runs the course , and he said that he has an %85 dropout rate,( why you would drop out after paying that much money, is beyond me). I and i did asked him about the gear and he said they do help you with some of it, if you dont have it, like fins, mask, tent, but cost of the camp is expensive. And he said that there is only 8 students in a class, and bascially it is torture for 4 days. But he said that out of all the people who have gone through his course, that 3 have gone through the naval academy , 4 have gone on , and completed BUD/S, and 1 is currently in BUD/S. So if you can get past the price , it may render some usefull knowledge.

[Swimmer2004]

I really refuse to beleive that you need this to be successful in BUD/S or in the Teams period. You say this guy was in the Teams, yeah prolly right, but he isn't anymore he is now a salesman. Again, just my thoughts...

[BigBlake88]

The idea of former SEALs using the trident to sell themselves is not completely unheard of, case in point, Scott Helvenston with his SEAL training videos, Stew Smith and his training vides, CJ Caracci and his videos. While their intentions maybe to make an extra buck for themselves, i do not believe it is total greed that compells them to do this, id like to believe that maybe they are just trying to share some knowledge ,and help guys like us out. So maybe the guy who is running this camp is just trying give us peak in to what BUD/S is like, all be it with a heafty price tag

[childofgod]

i do not believe it is total greed that compells them to do this, id like to believe that maybe they are just trying to share some knowledge ,and help guys like us out.


I hope you're right Blake. But it's hard to believe that when you think about this.... if he were so concerned about helping others out, he wouldn't be charging $160 a day for him to yell at you and make you do callesthenics.... sounds kind of funny when you think of it that way. Hell... in BUD/S they not only yell at you for free... but they pay you as well!

[BigBlake88]

Very true, you do bring up some valid points. But call me crazy , but i think i am going to go nto this course, fortunetly i am not paying for this course out of my own pocket. I have some very benevolent supporters. This will either be a good investment or a bad one.

[dboyle]

Very true, you do bring up some valid points. But call me crazy , but i think i am going to go nto this course, fortunetly i am not paying for this course out of my own pocket. I have some very benevolent supporters. This will either be a good investment or a bad one.

If you do go through with it, let us know what you think. I'm considering it, but haven't made up my mind yet. $800 might be better spent on diving training.

[BigBlake88]

I have some time before the actual date of the camp, but i will let you know about it. the price is pretty high ($750). but i have talked the people who organize the camp and you can pay in installments, ( $200/per month starting with this month) so that is defintely helping me attending this course.

[Jhagerman]

Here is another SEAL team PT class - 2 weeks long $250. Looks to be only 1 to 2 hours a day. But it is in Richmond, Va. Thought you all may like to know... http://www.sealteampt.com/index2.html

[dangordon87]

hey dboyle, im a SUBA diver certified by PADI. even though $800 will get make u liscensed diver, thats not enough. to truly become a good scuba diver, you have to work on ur bouyancy and other techniques over many dives. it may take u many many dives (100's maybe, i have 30 right now) and it is VERY expensive

[jaredtitan]

Besides money, there are other more important things to consider before taking courses like this or entering any sort of "camp" for training.

1. Are they authorized or monitored by the Navy?

2. Are trained medical experts on hand to monitor you and make sure you don't hurt yourself?

3. Is the facility approved by the state (places like these often have to meet codes)?

4. Is equipment in good working order? Is it safe?

I don't know the answers to these questions, but before I handed over my time, money, and possible health, I'd dam well find out.

JT

[BigBlake88]

thanks for the advice.

[BigBlake88]

Well after much consideration and talking to the instructor of the course (Jack Walston) i have to decided to reserve a space for the Dec. 27-31 camp. I will write about the course when i get back from it, and to see if it was worth it.

[diesel828]

Good luck man. Have fun.

[waterbrat]

I could think of better uses for that kind of cash. Just join the Navy, apply for BUD/S, and findout what its like first hand. What if you go to this camp, and then when you get to BUD/S you quit the first day. Take a look around, dont atticipate BUD/S by trying to go to a mock setup and seeing what its like. Its like combat, you dont know how your going to react until that first bullet goes past your head. You cant simulate combat, much less BUD/S. Think about it.
WB

[BigBlake88]

You bring up a very good point, but on the other hand , this camp is supposed to simulate BUD/S the best it can, which is probably better than me trying to simulate it myself. The point I am making is that, what if i go to this camp and i realize this training isnt for me, that is better than enlisting , going to BUD/S, dropping out, and then having to spend 6 months (or however long a deployment is) on a boat in the middle of an ocean, miserable.
Thank you for your advice though.

[kinglover2004]

I am 16 years old and i have seen all of the things off of tv...all of the things on discovery and all of the books..well most of them..but i want to go to a training camp. the fact that they may be expensive is no problem but how would you get there and what is the name of the camp you were referring to?

[BigBlake88]

The camp that i was refering to can be found on the internet by doing a search for "SEAL PT COURSE" and then once you get to the site look for the "Special Forces" camp. But as far as me recommending that camp , i would have say no. Although i think that my experince there may have just been a fluke, i do think that , that the camp has good things to offer, unfortunatley when i went it did not go well, due to what i would call a lack of planning. But dont get me wrong the instructors were everything you would expect from former operators, they were very inense. But i think it was a bad judgement call when i went to that camp, i say that b/c preivously upon arriving to the camp i was told several times that there were going to be 7 guys there to do that camp, as that is the maximum number of people that can attend. But to my dismay i found that there were only going too be 3 of us. But the camp was held anyway, even we were lead under a pretense that there were suppose to 7 guys there. According to the instructors 4 dropped out at the very last moment, which in their defense may have been the case, but i think that the camp should have been postponed till there was an exceptable amount of people since they told me that the minimum amount of people was 5 , but they held it anyways, and there were some other things i didnt agree with which made me seem a little weary but. over all i gained some valuable knowledge from the camp, like where i stood in my training,
a glimpse of the mental aspect the you must have to endure that type of training, and exposure to some of types of training (i.e. surf torture). But for me it was not worth the money spent, but i stress again that my experince was an isolated event do to unforseen circumstance, and other people may a much better experience than i did. I do not believe that all the SF Camps will be flawed.

[trujillosk8]

camps like that are for rich dumb *** spioled kids like you. just be a man about it and go to bud/s and save yourself some money and get some real training. youi sound preety gulable to if you think you gained any knowlege there. he sounds like a pansy.