Contest

[SneakySFDude]

I don't like the term BTDT. I'm starting a contest to come up with a new term. The winner gets a heartfelt thanks and that's it.

[Wrenchboy]

I don't like the term BTDT. I'm starting a contest to come up with a new term. The winner gets a heartfelt thanks and that's it.


Things that make you go, hmmmm.

How about Yoda? He has BTDT and is the master of his trade.

[Wrenchboy]

How about he with eyes of eagle, nose of deer, strength of bear, heart of lion, and brain of squid? Lets see thats EENDSBHLBS. Could work on this board looks like a Navy abbreviation, NAVSPECSPUNKSOUTH. Did I win yet?

[Tri]

Someone Already Initiated/ National Treasure

SAINT

[Southoftheborder]

How about;

"He who has picked up dropped spoons and shut open windows"

or

"Rider of White Elephants"

or

"Stomper of **** " (SOS)

or

"Multiple T-Shirt Owner" (MTO)

or

"Marine" (hey, I couldn't resist)

[Wrenchboy]

"Marine" (hey, I couldn't resist)


ROTFLMAO wheeww

Captain underpants?

Cornholio?

Coin holder?

T-shirt and coffee cup owner?

SOA membership havin dude?

Social misfit?

Fireman?

Captain caveman?

Member of the justice league!

He who walked the walk.

Real deal

pavement layer< you continued to build on what others had built, and if a new guy forgets you remember how to do it. Oh yeah and the keeper of knowledge from when it was hard.

Sealpup!, man this is hard.

[yossarian]

I don't like the term BTDT. I'm starting a contest to come up with a new term. The winner gets a heartfelt thanks and that's it.


I always liked muddy boots guy myself. You ain't one then you don't what it means. MBG.

[SneakySFDude]

Hah! I like it! MBG. Let's give it a couple more days and see what else comes up, but I'm liking it.

[SneakySFDude]

Might have to adjust it a little, though. How do you like MBD - change guy for dude. Guy has poofter status down here now.

[Southoftheborder]

Oh sure Sneaky. Take a suggestion from a "guuuuuurrrlllll"! I'm tellin ya, this contest is RIGGED!!!

Well....umm.....OK. It does sound pretty cool, but a GUUUUUURRRRRLLLLL?!

[FM]

Mind an opinion from a civilian?


How about...... DTOM=Don't tread on me.

[yossarian]

Well....umm.....OK. It does sound pretty cool, but a GUUUUUURRRRRLLLLL?!


I wouldn't bet it was a GUUUUURRRRRLLLL who came up with that. LMAO!!!

Sneaky, does SOTB know that the other "borrows" my screen name every so often? :)

[SneakySFDude]

Obviously not.

[SneakySFDude]

Mind an opinion from a civilian?



Not at all.

[Southoftheborder]

I wouldn't bet it was a GUUUUURRRRRLLLL who came up with that. LMAO!!!

Sneaky, does SOTB know that the other "borrows" my screen name every so often?

You're right. I didn't know "others" used your username. But (and keeping in mind that I am possibly VERY mistaken).........

Who would notice "muddy boots" other than a woman? Sure, I kick the crap off my boots when arriving at pavement or indoors (or hopefully BEFORE indoors), but I really don't think about my boot trackings or those of other dudes (since I don't have to clean it up).

"Muddy boots guy" just seems like something that a woman who had to deal with the mess a lot would think about. Likewise, I there are numerous things about women, that other women think of first -- and yet, men don't. An example is how many women have asked me what the eye color of "X" female was/is. I have to be honest when I say that other than my wife and ex-wife, I can't remember the eye color of NAY females (and I remembered theirs just to keep out of trouble). I can remember OTHER attributes, but that isn't one of them.:D

[naoscaire]

I can't remember the eye color of NAY females


*WEG* I bet if their eyes were 18 inches lower you would find it easier to remember ;)

[jake00]

*WEG* I bet if their eyes were 18 inches lower you would find it easier to remember ;)

Good one, nao! LMAO

[yossarian]

"Muddy boots guy" just seems like something that a woman who had to deal with the mess a lot would think about.



ROFLMAO! Me? Deal with boots? No Way Jose'! I don't shine boots. I don't clean mud off boots. I didn't get them dusty, dirty, muddy, wear the soles out, lose them, or sign up to wear them. They aren't mine. I don't take of them to be resoled. I have been known to drop BDU's at Miss Hanni's or pick them up if they are pre-paid but only if there's a really good reason.

First time I heard the expression muddy boots kind of soldier was at the promotion of a CWO-4 to CWO-5. That was a couple years ago.

The next time I ask him to take my heels in for new caps he can as me to shine boots.

As we say around here - There are boy things and there are girl things. You don't ask me to do guy stuff and I'll make sure you aren't in the feminine supply aisle asking for a price check.

[ktek01]

Replace BTDT? Which definition? What does it even mean anymore? The first time I heard the term it meant Combat Veteran only, not sure what it means anymore.

[SneakySFDude]

Damn Mr. Yossarian, some support battalion you got there.

ketek - hence my dislike of the term. I'm not sure what it means anymore either.

[yossarian]

Damn Mr. Yossarian, some support battalion you got there.



Support! Support! I can't believe you called me a support troop! Hoooo LEEEE Smokes! I had to stomp three times around the living room, kick the dog twict and shaved that poor cat right down to the bare bones! It's running around with half a dozen dots of toilet paper on its *** and scratched the daylights out of the baby at the sight of stepic pencil, the poor thing. Support Troop! OMG!!!

Count your blessings I dislike bugs too much to consider setting a toe in your A/O.

[reconjohnnie]

I just remembered this onme when I was PMing SOTB..

BAT!!! not RAT but B. A. T. since you are out like me we are B.I.G A.S.S. T.A.R.G.E.T.S BAT

[JMW85]

TWWTW, Those Whom Walked The Walk
GENSF - GENeration Special Forces
GENMR - GENeration Marine Recon
GENFM - GENeration FrogMan

I know, I'm not super creative, I'll prolly think of more eventually.

[yossarian]

Totally off topic -

Did you used to throw on the Three Monkey dart team?

[yossarian]

Does that statement make you feel like somebody?

Maybe you missed something? Being a woman I'm sure you did


I'm certainly missing the reason for this answer so nevermind.

[jake00]

Does that statement make you feel like somebody?

Maybe you missed something? Being a woman I'm sure you did

The above statement was obviously made by a moron. Good job fartjunky...

[longrange1947]

Sneaky I am kinda favorable to LOB.

[longrange1947]

I was returning an immature comment with another, my first post was consistent with the first post in this topic.

Let us assume that there is a dart team called the three monkeys, and that she knows some of them. Could it be that she thought you were one of them.

[yossarian]

Let us assume that there is a dart team called the three monkeys, and that she knows some of them. Could it be that she thought you were one of them. That being the case, where is the immaturity except in your post?


Thanks Longrange. My sister and I both throw darts, and we looked at Dartjunky's homepage. He looks like a member of the Three Monkey's team. That's why I asked the question. I said when I asked it that it was off topic but it's always nice to find friends and even "rivals" on these forums. We took 3rd place behind them btw. Those darn guys! ;)

[longrange1947]

Thanks Longrange. My sister and I both throw darts, and we looked at Dartjunky's homepage. He looks like a member of the Three Monkey's team. That's why I asked the question.

Figured that the case as you had stated off topic. I never have been able to play that game. Have triied but just not good at that wrist snap, or whatever it is you do to get the dart to fly straight.

I got a nice apology from dartjunky, but would appreciate an open apology here. He seems to have erased the original post but I will not erase mine until I see an apology to you as public as his blasting. :)

Come on dartjunky, how about it, "even if she is just a girl". :)

[dartjunky]

My apologies to anyone I may of offended with my comments. I'm not in a pleasant situation right now. I'll stay on the Navy side from now on.

[dartjunky]

No i didn't play for the three monkey team, I took that as an insult.

[yossarian]

No i didn't play for the three monkey team, I took that as an insult.



Not intended as one. It was and is a good dart team. Thanks for clearing it up.
Cheri

[USSFPA]

OK, GROUP HUG!!! Someone light the fire in the burn barrell so we can sing Kumbaya.
Alright people...get your game faces back on, I am expecting a Barney Avatar any minute with the ways this all looks...it almost embarrassing ;)

[ktek01]

Don't have a Barney handy, will my new avatar do the trick? :D

[USSFPA]

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAAHA
ROTFLMMFAO!!!

Would that be the "Twinky Winky Weaper"?
Too Funny ...

[fish78]

*WEG* I bet if their eyes were 18 inches lower you would find it easier to remember ;)


They were either Cigar Brown or Bunny Rabbit Pink!

[naoscaire]

The first time I heard the term it meant Combat Veteran only, not sure what it means anymore.



ketek - hence my dislike of the term. I'm not sure what it means anymore either.


Still means Combat Veteran for me atleast. Hence my ability to earn a bad name when I tear into a NHBTDT.

How about KOTS - Keepers of the stones :) I know I know , it dont mean **** but I thought it sounded cool as a typed it.

If you boys dont mind I will stick with Warrior, envokes an air of honor and brotherhood that I kinda dig

[yossarian]

If you boys dont mind I will stick with Warrior, envokes an air of honor and brotherhood that I kinda dig



I am in agreement with Sneaky that BTDT is a lousy term since there's such a huge number of things that people can claim BTDT status for. Giving birth? BTDT! Put up with stupid wives who think their husband's rank belongs to them? Oh yeah, and more than once. Beat the crap out of life in general because you were the one at home while the other half was gone so you had no choice? Raising my hand for that one too.

Combat Vet is a good measuring stick of been there, done that status but not all the things special forces has done are labelled as combat. Would anyone want to take what they do as less than what it's worth or take anything away from them simply because it's not classified a certain way?

I've heard the fellas addressed as warriors, and it's a name I agree with 110%. I'm going with Sneaky and the other half though and saying that muddy boots dude gets my guuuuurrrrl vote.

(For myself, I like Godzilla. the other half always tells me if I don't like what someone is doing then "Godzilla them off the A/O." You can call me Godzilla or God for short)

[naoscaire]

Combat Vet is a good measuring stick of been there, done that status but not all the things special forces has done are labelled as combat. Would anyone want to take what they do as less than what it's worth or take anything away from them simply because it's not classified a certain way?


*LOL* Concur again BTDT should not be used on the internet as far as I am concerned Unless we can define where THAT is and exactly what the f@&k THAT was. I can only bestow BTDT status on someone in person, to me it can only be told in how a person carries themselfes and if I can find familularity{sp?} in their eyes.

Of course I could revert back to my old days, around a regular base all they ever called us was THEM ... or Crazy sometimes the smart ones called us psycho and left us alone *LMAO*

[grubber]

If you boys dont mind I will stick with Warrior

Can another civvie stick his head in here.

If you take Warrior and combine it with the other current favourite part Dude

You have Warrior Dude... WD

Denotes combat and not backline operations. Maybe the logistics people can keep the BTDT

just my 0.02
cheers
grubber

[yossarian]

Denotes combat and not backline operations. Maybe the logistics people can keep the BTDT

just my 0.02
cheers
grubber


Amatuers talk tactics - Professionals talk logistics.

[NewportBarGuy]

Keeper of the Magic Pine Cones

TWHSN and TTDN

Those That Have Sophia's Number and Those That Do Not

I'm pretty sure only Sneaky will understand the second.

[sk1d]

Just another wanna/gonna be butting in. May I suggest using two very good ideas already mentioned and blending them together. How about Muddy Boots Warrior (MBW)?

I will now crawl back into the shadows of this site and take the advice of Sneaky and USSFPA......."And go do some PT!"

[grubber]

Hi Yossarian,

Please don't take my post to mean that I have no respect for the guys and girls in the backlines. Not at all. The logistics of just keeping the front line, fed, watered, fit, armed, and in as good as health as possible, fuel, etc is amazing, they do a tremendous job. My apologies if any were offended by my post, NOT my intention.

What they have accomplished over in Iraq, so far from home is a prime example. Another terrific example of the defence force logistics capabilities was the Berlin Airlift at end of WWII. Simply amazing! Well done to them all.

Was just getting in spirit of the comp.

cheers
grubber

[grubber]

Hi Sk1d,

Just to clarify, not a



Just another wanna/gonna be



Simply a Aussie civvie who has respect for the hard and dangerous work men and women, from all the allied countries, through the ages to present, have done, and will continue to do, so that myself and more importantly my family can live in peace. Also, not a young whippersnapper either...LOL.

As stated above, no disrespect intended. My apologies again.

I see from your profile you are going in under the 18x, sincerely, I hope you do well and it is people like you and all the other real deals on the board in whatever capacity, that we can thank for the peace we civvies enjoy. Stay safe in your service and all the best for the training ahead.

cheers and everyone have a beer on me while they have their thinking caps on. Word of advice though, dont drink the Fosters, we only export that stuff.

cheers
grubber

[yossarian]

Please don't take my post to mean that I have no respect for the guys and girls in the backlines.


You have mail at the address listed in your profile.

[sk1d]

I was just stating that I am a wanna be, and giving my input to the contest. I wasn't responding to your post calling you a wannabe that is butting in. Just referring to myself. Sorry for the confusion......

[grubber]

No Worries Sk1d, thanks for that.
All good as far as I am concerned, and what I said above still stands, best of luck with your future.

Hope it all goes well and just remember dont drink the Fosters....:-)

cheers
grubber

[grubber]

And a big thank you to Yossarian for contacting me and letting me know the difference in the forces as to the Snuffies(love that name!) and logistics. I Understand it now! Was sortof lumping them together in above posts.

They all do a great job and I am thinking that is why teamwork is so important, not just within the teams, batts, etc but across all the different areas, they all rely on everyone to do their job well for it to work.

Again, my apologies for any confusion.

cheers
grubber

[A62]

Snuffies


Does that mean the same thing it did 35 years ago?LOL The question is, what do you want this term to signify? A combat Vet or a Meateater? You can of course be a Combat Vet and never have been a meateater, and you can be a meateater and never have seen combat.

A62 out

[yossarian]

Snuffies


Does that mean the same thing it did 35 years ago?



The way it gets used around here it means low man on the totem pole.

[SneakySFDude]

The question is, what do you want this term to signify? A combat Vet or a Meateater? You can of course be a Combat Vet and never have been a meateater, and you can be a meateater and never have seen combat.


Therein lies the problem. Obviously combat is THE discriminating factor, but many times the call never comes during a given timframe (although it doesn't look like that will be the case in the foreseeable future). I wouldn't say that a guy that served from '75-'95 in 1st or 10th SFG is not a BTDT because he didn't go to Greneda or JC and was not in the ME. The committments were small over there if I remember right.

I'm authorized a combat patch for JC, but a Ranger PFC back from 'Stan is more likely to have been shot and shot than I was in Panama.

Also, some people have the misfortune to be in SWC or staff jobs when these ops happen - not their fault.

Hard question isn't it?

[A62]

Yos,

The way it gets used around here it means low man on the totem pole.

Back then, it used to mean an enlisted man.LOL Check it out with ODA, he was a year in front of me in OCS.



Hard question isn't it?


Yes sir, that's why I mentioned it.

BTW, had a zonin feind that was highly pissed when yous guys set up a morter Plt less than 100 ft from his house.LOL He left right after that.


combat patch


I have seen you guys use this term before. Is that what we used to call a Right sleever? Comabt patch on the right sleeve.

A62 out

[Mac679]

I have seen you guys use this term before. Is that what we used to call a Right sleever? Comabt patch on the right sleeve.


A62, yeppers



how about ROs ( "Retired" Operators )-I know not all have retired ( some ETS, etc. ) and SOs ( Serving Operators )?
Short and simple

[CPTAUSRET]

Gun driver:
Cobra jock:
Death Dealer (one of my call signs):

These work for me, but not others, I have upwards of 3,000 hrs of combat time in VN. Every time I pulled pitch we were either being scrambled to a distress call, being mortared, flying CAS for a unit slugging it out on the ground, or trolling for someone to shoot at us:

I doubt that this helps the discussion in question, but felt like adding my opinion:

Terry

[A62]

, flying CAS for a unit slugging it out on the ground,


yep, I remember yous guys, we had to check fire while you were in the area. No problem here, I got to do the FAC thing.LOL You guys were definaltely a Godsend. BTW, from an old Grunt, thanks man, yo you and your Bro's.




trolling for someone to shoot at us


Was that sometimes called recon by fire? We used to do that with lead Plt. When contact made bring in the Cav.LOL

A62 out

[CPTAUSRET]

LOL You guys were definaltely a Godsend. BTW, from an old Grunt, thanks man, yo you and your Bro's.


For me, it definitely was a labor of love, for every "little f**ker" I planted I presumed an American boy would come home safe:



trolling for someone to shoot at us

[/QUOTED]


Was that sometimes called recon by fire? We used to do that with lead Plt. When contact made bring in the Cav.LOL



Trolling, was literally flying "low and slow" never above 50 ft AGL, so we could identify the source of fire and destroy it:

Recon by fire was sometimes a part of "trolling":

Terry

[reconjohnnie]

OK I am going to use POLY's Code name:

F.A.G Former Action Guy.

:D

John