I am leaving this site...

[Doug]

For specific reasons which I will not discuss here in an open forum - I am very upset with certain people. I will be leaving NSC. For those of you who know me, keep in touch via e-mail. I am sorry I can no longer be of any help but I will no longer be visiting the message boards or the chat room. Sorry but I am done. No reasons to sit around and bicker of specifics. Thank you...............

[Moon2002]

I am truly sorry Doug. If I may, I would like to just thank you for the advice that you have personally given me. It has been a value beyond what I can tell you.

Good luck with yourself, family, and career.

-Moon

[grubber]

Sorry to hear that Doug,

Your hard work is appreciated by many. Your departure is sites loss.
All the best for the future.

sincerely
grubber

[defPlayr350]

Doug, you are an asset to this site. I regret missing the chance to have a conversation with you. Best of luck in all your ventures.

-def-

[futhermucker]

Don't know what to say except. Thanks for the work you put into this site.

[merlin45k]

Hey doug just got back from out of town sorry to hear your leaving the sight I havn't been a member to long but you have done a great job and truely an asset so far take care and safe journey's to you and your family merlin45k out

[alienhunter2049]

Don't know what to say except. Thanks for the work you put into this site.

Ditto.

[Allison]

Doug- I have no idea what happened, but whatever it is, I wish you could just let it roll. You are a great asset here, and have had a lot of patience with many. You'll come back. This place is like Hotel California... you can check in, but you can never leave.
You will be missed by many. Your presence helps these boards and gives the site more meaning, I hope you will reconsider. If I don't see you, I wish you, Lisa, and Andrew the best.
Allison :(

[Surferstrand]

Sorry to see you go Doug. Good luck to you with whatever you do in life. I hope to do what you once did in the Teams. I plan on going SDV after hearing all the cool things you said about them ...of course I know I have to get through BUD/S first though. Anyways, I hope you can work through whatever made you decide to quit this site and we all wish to see you come back. We will miss your posts. THanks for all your insite.

[fisher6547]

sit around and bicker


I doubt that Doug is reading any of this.
I think he was dead serious in his post.
This might be a lesson to us all that the BS here gets to people.
Especially when it keeps pilling higher because of us feeding it.
It seems none of us can leave dead dogs lie.
We have to drag them around and smell up the place.
If we could all learn to just be positive and enjoy each others company and ignore those that slither in from time to time. This site can get well again.
I haven't been here as long as some but I have seen the ups and downs. And it's downs are usually caused by getting hung up on issues or rudeness and stupidity insttead of just avoiding it and moving on to bigger and better things.

Ignoreing things really does make them go away some times.

Maybe we all need to take a break.
And go over to Dougs house... Just kidding.

I, my self am going to continue to curb my tounge and fingers a little bit harder for the health of the site and our relationships as friends, soldiers, grown ups and youngsters.

Fisher

[Future_warrior1]

And we should kick off the stupid ones that come asking for girls, or asking stupid questions. I can perfectly see why Doug will leave, its so bad that i stop reading the Ask a SEAL column because of the stupid questions posted there, and the inability to not answer when you're not a SEAL. Some even say at the start of their post, "I'm not a SEAL...but". Well what did Doug say, if you're not a SEAL, don't reply to the comments. There have been many times when i too wanted to relpy very badly, or give some advice, but even though you may think you have the answer leave the questions for the BTDT, who know what its all about. Doug will be missed, and we can only wish him all the best, in his future years. If you wanted to reply to a comment, do it in the General Forum, not in Ask A SEAL. No wonder Doug is leaving.


Stan

[kittybaby]

Doug, you will be missed greatly. It Has been wonderful to have meet you. Keep up the covert ops with the tooth ferry, LOL. I had a nice time with you in the chat room. God Bless. Lots of love to the kids and family. Babs :)

[alienhunter2049]

This might be a lesson to us all that the BS here gets to people.
Especially when it keeps pilling higher because of us feeding it.
It seems none of us can leave dead dogs lie.
We have to drag them around and smell up the place.
If we could all learn to just be positive and enjoy each others company and ignore those that slither in from time to time. This site can get well again.
I haven't been here as long as some but I have seen the ups and downs. And it's downs are usually caused by getting hung up on issues or rudeness and stupidity insttead of just avoiding it and moving on to bigger and better things.

Point taken.

[AnnyED]

And we should kick off the stupid ones that come asking for girls, or asking stupid questions


IMHO... i think this is exactly the point. But i don´t mean the kids who are asking stupid questions (i just don´t care about them) but the unpleasant fights that follow after that from our own people here. Serious, i understand any of your emotions when you folks start your struggles with such kids - but with that you make it even worse than it has ever been in its beginning. Why the hell can´t you ignore them????? As so many said this here before: this is the easiest way to get rid of them. It needs just a little patience. You spread this endlessly instead letting it starve by non-attention. And each of the replies from you get uglier and uglier... Okay, i know, cause you enjoy this in some way...
But then you shouldn´t complain and wonder when others here get sick of this site and leave (of course i have no idea if that was a reason for Doug, but surely for some others). Sometimes it is much wiser to shut up than to enjoy a short satisfaction from letting steam out...


Doug, i wish you and your family all the best. You will be missed here....

Respectfully,

Anny

[DoorkickerWannabe]

I have been out of touch for a while and I am wondering what went on while I was gone? What happened to piss Doug off so much. I think if it is that bad we should start a new website.
DKW

[skimmer]

I doubt that Doug is reading any of this.
I think he was dead serious in his post.


Fisher's right......Doug usually says what he means....and means what he says......

BUT.....just in case he should see this.....

We will miss your wit and wisdom....the laughter you brought out of all of us, and the ocassional tear to our eye....

See you on the beach Bro'..........

skimmer

[guppie]

I will be leaving NSC.


I'm so sorry to hear that Doug. Please reconsider. *sigh* Well anyways, ....... take care and god bless. Hello to Lisa and the kids. All the best for the future.

Hugs,
Guppie

[MP5PDW]

Doug,

You will be missed my friend. Best of luck in all apects of your life. Thank you for the insight you have provided me and all other wannabees on this site.

MP
out

[Jack_Oneill]

I've only been here for about 4 months but i've talked to you in the chat alot. you're a good guy Doug, sorry to see you go.

[Panda]

Doug,

You WILL be missed ....Please take of you ,Lisa and family and know that our thoughts,our friendship and our Love go with you ....

(((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))))))
Panda

[lksb]

I'm very sad to hear this. I never got a chance to talk to you or your wife, but I do know that you will be extremely missed. I wish you good luck in the future and my thanks for the job you do to protect us.

God bless you and your family.
Linda

[Cil]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Why Did Doug leave? It is JUST A WEBSITE, damnit. You don't leave a website, you take a break from it. How in the Whole Wide World can a website bother you SO MUCH that you have to post a Goodbye?

It escapes me. It is not that you are not missed Doug, for you can see you have had a positive influence on 100% of the members here ( I would have said 99.9%.....but does that .01% matter? No)

So what gives Doug? This is not THAT bad of a site, is it?

Like I said, if you are having a hard time, take a break. But, to leave all these good people wanting more from a BTDT seems counterproductive. You always had a joke or a "LMAO" to offer to everyone on this board. I personally think you should come back.

You belong here. And if leaving is your wish, an explanation is in order. You don't owe anyone that, but I think the members of this board deserve one.

Just my opinion.
Cil.

[leyton]

How do we get in touch with Doug off-line?

[Bad_Dog]

How do we get in touch with Doug off-line?
Knock on his door, send him a snail-mail, or call him on the land line.

[IceHeart]

This doesn't make sense to me.

Why Did Doug leave? It is JUST A WEBSITE, damnit. You don't leave a website, you take a break from it. How in the Whole Wide World can a website bother you SO MUCH that you have to post a Goodbye?

It escapes me. It is not that you are not missed Doug, for you can see you have had a positive influence on 100% of the members here ( I would have said 99.9%.....but does that .01% matter? No)

So what gives Doug? This is not THAT bad of a site, is it?

Like I said, if you are having a hard time, take a break. But, to leave all these good people wanting more from a BTDT seems counterproductive. You always had a joke or a "LMAO" to offer to everyone on this board. I personally think you should come back.

You belong here. And if leaving is your wish, an explanation is in order. You don't owe anyone that, but I think the members of this board deserve one.

Just my opinion.
Cil.


I second that. Doug, your input here was so valued to people who want to one day grow up to be like you, it seems counterproductive (Cil, I like that word) to leave. Take a break, trust me, sooner or later you can't help but pop back in. Also, does this mean that Lisa won't be coming here?? Lossing two people in one go just ain't right.

Ice Heart

[sunny]

I am sorry, like everyone else, to hear you are leaving. I wish you and yours all the love and luck in the future.
sunny out..... and still waiting on that email - lol

[mark]

Doug's contribution to this site is and has always been outstanding. He is leaving because he needs to look into his soul and determine if he is going to live life honorably.
Mark

[AnnyED]

With all my respect, Mark, but if this should be an explanation then it leaves more questions open than that it explains something....

Anyway... it´s probably just no business of ours...

Anny

[lisa]

I came on the other day and read all the wonderful posts to Doug both under General & Ask A SEAL.....I was very touched by all the warm regards to both Doug & our family. I thought about the question asked of me here about whether or not I was leaving as well and decided to post today. Once again I was impressed by EVERYONE then I read Mark's post. Mark - please email me if you'd like to talk, I'm not going to do it here in open forum and add to the drama. What I will say though is that many people "know" Doug.....but I KNOW Doug.....he is the most honorable man (besides my Father & Grandfather) that I have ever known. When we met he was a single father raising his baby alone and had no problem taking on the responsibilities of a woman with two children of her own, one whom is profoundly handicapped. The love that this man has for this child is truly amazing. The most difficult but rewarding job in the world is being a parent.......add the fact that you have to watch your child suffer through every step of her life with seizures, blindness, the inability to sit, talk, walk, eat, and so on with nothing you can do to change this fate but love her & care for her. Only someone with the upmost honor would willingly take on that responsibility. Doug is an honorable man.

I see that this post under "Ask A SEAL" has been deleted........why don't you lock this one.......I think we've all said our peace. If anyone wants to talk to me my email addy is lisa@navyseals.com. For those of you who asked how to get in contact with Doug you still can via his email here - Doug@navyseals.com or just use mine.

Thank you all again for your kind thoughts and words to our family. It is truly appreciated. Maybe I'll see ya around in chat from time to time. All the best........

-lisa
a.k.a. DOUG'S WIFE


P.S. Guppie - I love the new picture! How cute! It made me smile.....thanks.

[X-AO]

I have been with NSC since the old comshack 5+ years ago. Doug was a integral part of the new site. While I normally lurk around and only contribute on issues I feel strongly about I have to say I deeply regret that Doug has decided to move on. I wish lisa and him all the best. - Rik

[frogwife]

Wow -- such profound words from someone who has failed to employ same-- time and time again as I am learning quickly! Peoploe who live in glass houses...
It's probably not very wise to come onto this site and bash the owner. If you're so new then you certainly don't know the full story on Doug's leaving, as he hasn't posted it publicly. And unless you know Mark personally, again, I don't see how you could make that statement.

I find him to be quite honorable and sincere in his attempts to make this site a place for everyone to enjoy. The only requirements are a little self-policing and honesty.

[Wazz]

Wow -- such profound words from someone who has failed to employ same-- time and time again as I am learning quickly! Peoploe who live in glass houses...


Leyton
And the basis for your analysis? I cannot find a profile or a history on you. Could you help us out?

[Wazz]

it was a piercing blow from the owner that was unwarranted and inappropriate given the matter.


leyton
You do not know the "matter". And if you know the owner personally would you not of handled your offering to him in private email rather than like a raged youngster trying to publicly reap some vengance?

As you keep your iden hidden and future thoughts to yourself, watch out for your own glass wall.

You will find my email address in my profile if you wish to touch with me.

[frogwife]

Generally reading a message containing what Mark wrote, would leave one to question Doug's character, values and/or behavior-- my thought, it was a piercing blow from the owner that was unwarranted and inappropriate given the matter.
Again, given that you are not privy to the reason Doug left or why Mark made his statement, I don't think you are in the position to make that comment. Unless you know something about this particular situation that the rest of the board doesn't. Somehow I don't think you do.

If you think so little of Mark and his character (knowing him personally and all), I cannot imagine why you would want to join this site, unless it's to troll around and make disparaging comments. And if that is your reasoning then you have too much time on your hands, my friend.

[Wetwash]

Wazz and Frogwife,

VERY well said.

[fish78]

Just a guess, but I have my centavos on Leyton have some connection to the fulfillment company that has recently been replaced to handle items bought on the site's store.