HM SEAL

[TRD2835]

Hey guys Im pretty new here and I have some questions to ask about HM SEALs. I was at a DEP meeting earlier today and one of my freinds who ships out this month who has a SEAL Challenge contract with an HM rating says that guys that are going to be HM SEALs must have higher line scores on the ASVAB than guys with other ratings. Is this true? If so does anyone know what kind of line scores you have to have? He told me got the info from some site but, I can't remember which one www.navyseals.mil or something like that. If a SEAL or anyone could clear this up for me or give me a web address that would clear this up for me that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot guys. Appriciate it a lot.
Justin

[Krayn]

I'm not a SEAL and I will just slip in the address :o
http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/

[kevin22ca]

You may need higher scores. There is a minimum ASVAB needed for anything when you are joining. I believe the SEAL ASVAB is 50 which is pretty damn low (other words you can be a complete moron), stuff like the nuc program is high (I think thats like 70 or 75 or something), HM may very well have a required rating higher then 50 which would be higher then what I believe SEALs is so if thats the case then yes you would need a higher ASVAB then normally you would for just SEALs.

[TRD2835]

Ahh I see...Thanks a lot man.

[DirkD]

The ASVAB score is a combined score of two of the five areas, rest assured nothing so mediocre as 50.

No higher score is req for HM, but if your a dummy SOCM will suck.

kevin, you are technically wrong on many topics and misleading kids here.

It's too bad the program wasn't for you, but you apparently have some sort of bizarre attachment to the SEAL gig, find something else to think about and move on.

[Southpaw11]

TRD-

Kevin is not a SEAL. His opinions are not encouraged, endorsed, nor are they accepted nor are they recognized by this community.

southpaw out

[kevin24ca]

riiiiiiiight


TRD-

Kevin is not a SEAL. His opinions are not encouraged, endorsed, nor are they encouraged by this community.

southpaw out

[Holland]

Kevin is in error.

[Wazz]

TRD

See:

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/req_asvab.asp

[ndrober]

DirkD-

I am the guy in DEP that TRD is talking about. Now I was going over the www.seal.navy.mil website and looking at the requirements for Civilian Recruits(which TRD and myself both are). The link to this document is here (http://www.seal.navy.mil/seal/pdf/civilianrecruits.pdf).



The ASVAB score is a combined score of two of the five areas, rest assured nothing so mediocre as 50.

No higher score is req for HM, but if your a dummy SOCM will suck.


On this pdf doc it states and I quote, "e. ASVAB minimum requirements, use and retest:
AR&VE/WK=104 and MC=50.
Note: For ASVAB Test numbers 5, 6, and 7, use WK.
Note 2: Minimum ASVAB score for Corpsman is AR+VE
or WK=110
Note 3: A waiver of up to five points can be
granted for the ASVAB. Your Navy Recruiter must
make request.".

I specifically stated to him that this is what I seen on that website and to take it for what its worth. I have done alot of research to get my SEAL challenge contract and through that research I have noticed lots of conflicting information. That is why I also told him about this website. So as you can see I was not misleading him or anything. I was just telling him what I had read on a website.

That brings me to another question. If you say there is no higher score required for HM for the SEAL challenge contract and the www.seal.navy.mil website says there is, which one is correct? I am in no way saying that in a bad tone. I am just interested in obtaining the correct information so that I do not pass on incorrect information.

One more thing now that I think about it. Our recruiter told me that TRD didn't qualify for the SEAL challenge contract because of his ASVAB score, but he would qualify for BUD/S if he shipped off to boot camp. From the information listed on www.seal.navy.mil. Located here (http://www.seal.navy.mil/seal/pdf/contractoverview.pdf) talks about the requirements for the SEAL challenge contract and here (http://www.seal.navy.mil/seal/pdf/civilianrecruits.pdf) for the requirements for civilian recruits. The minimum ASVAB line scores are the same on both documents. The reason I say anything at all to TRD about any of this, is because my recruiter tried to screw me over and say that MEPS wasn't giving out SEAL challenge contracts when in fact they were. It took me 4 months of fighting with my recruiter to finally get him to give me the contract I wanted. I don't believe a word the guy says to any of the recruits that he has in DEP. I feel partially responsible regarding TRD because I was the one that helped to convince him to go ahead and join the Navy using information from this recruiter and I later found out that it was all bogus information. I am just trying to be a good friend and a good future shipmate to TRD and trying to help him out a bit. I am in no way trying to mislead him.

Thanks,
ndrober

[ndrober]

Wazz -

See what I am talking about regarding conflicting information. (www.sealchallenge.navy.mil and www.seal.navy.mil are the exact same site). The link that you have posted shows a score of 104 on the lines for ar and ve be 104 and that MC needs to be 50, but if you read all the way down to the bottom of the page there is a link that says SEAL ASVAB requirements and in there it states, "REF: MILPERSMAN 1220-120
Requirements:
a. Minimum ASVAB score VE+AR=104
ASVAB Test numbers 5,6, and 7, use WK
b. Minimum ASVAB score for HM’s is VE+AR or VE+WK=110
c. MC=50
Up to a five point waiver can be granted for your total
ASVAB score. WK+AR or AR+VE = 104"

So I am guessing they just left the part out on the main site about HM's needing a little higher line scores. Not trying to split hairs here, just trying to defend what I say with some facts to back it up is all.

Thanks,
ndrober

[Wazz]

Well thanks, nd, I learned something. Appreciate the redirect.

[ndrober]

Thanks Wazz. Just trying to be thorough. I know that this is "Ask A SEAL...", but I have been doing lots of research the last few months and was really upset that my recruiter was misleading me and from what I have heard, this is not an uncommon occurance. The information is out there, you just got to look for it. So was just trying to point that out. I am just glad that I was able to give something back because to be honest without these boards and all the SEALs on it, I would have never had the information I needed to go toe to toe with my recruiter and get what I wanted.

Thanks again to you Wazz and all of the other SEALs on this board. I appreciate what you guys do here.

ndrober

[TRD2835]

Thanks a lot guys for the information. I really really really appreciate it a lot. =)