The M-4

[stratmn5105571]

Stop me if I'm wrong, but the SEAL version of the M-4 rifle is the "Colt .727 Carbine." Now, what are the differences between the two weapons, and if there are none, why do they have two different names? I don't expect any replies, but thanks for any help.

[xyzseaman]

their(SEALs) weapons are always customized...they got an SR-25. An M-4 with a 7.62 rounds in it.

[mark]

THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION...THE M-4 COMES WIHT A SHORTER BARREL, MOUNTS FOR THE M203 GRENADE LAUNCER (ACTUALLY IT COMES WITH THE M203) AND SPECIAL SITE MOUNTS.

Mark (Bud/s 170, ST-3, SDVT-1, NRST-1)

[stratmn5105571]

THE M-4 COMES WIHT A SHORTER BARREL, MOUNTS FOR THE M203 GRENADE LAUNCER (ACTUALLY IT COMES WITH THE M203) AND SPECIAL SITE MOUNTS.


Are you saying that the SEAL version of the M-4 comes with these specs, or is this the standard M-4 setup? (it sounds like the standard setup. If it is, how does it differ from that of the SEAL.)



their(SEALs) weapons are always customized...they got an SR-25. An M-4 with a 7.62 rounds in it.


I've done some research on that (you are correct, it does shoot a 7.62 X 51mm [.308 Win.] NATO round), and the SR-25 version with the shorter barrel and collapsable stock is the SR-25K. However, all of the information that I have found says that version was never put into full production. There were only 100 made. I could be wrong... I'm sure that mark would be the expert on that. Thanks for your replies.

[Mac679]

The version of the M4 issued to the Teams ( and all of SOCOM for that matter ) is the M4A1. The only difference in the weapon itself between the M4A1 and M4 is that the M4A1 has selector settings for safe-semi-full, the M4 is safe-semi-burst. The mounts Mark refers to on the M4 for mounting the M203 is the step down on the barrel you can see just forward of the front sight post in a picture. It's a standard feature for both M4 variants.

xyzseaman, there is nothing customized about an M4A1. The Teams recieve them from Colt and may spraypaint them camo, but I do believe that's about the extent of the "customization". The various attachments seen in pictures are part of the SOPMOD ( Special Operations Peculiar Modifications ) Kit issued to SOCOM units for the M4A1. Many of these attachments are currently in use by line infantry units in the US Army.

The SR25 is far more than an M4 chambered for 7.62NATO. The SR25 was designed by Eugene Stoner as a sniper rifle, not a battle rifle or assault rifle ( the M4 being the latter ). The SR25 was an amalgamation of two previous designs of Stoner's, the AR10 ( the 7.62 predecessor of the AR15 ) and the AR15. It was designed for situations requiring rapid *precision* engagement of multiple targets or situations in which may require rapid follow up shots. This can be evidenced by the fact that the SR25 comes with *no* fixed iron sights ( but does have points for back up iron sights ) and a free floating barrel.

Mac

[rvernetti]

It is 5.56 in the M-4. There is a new sniper rifle made by Stoner that is 7.62 that looks kind of like an M-4. There may be a few models out there in different calibers as test models or for deniability reasons but not the standard issue M-4.

Kevin Harty - ST-3, ST-1, NSWG-1 Sniper Program Manager

[stratmn5105571]

Mac,
That was the response I was looking for. Thanks a lot for the info. I also found that the reason it is called a Colt 727 Carbine is because it is made by Colt (duh), that number is actually a model number for the weapon, and carbine refers to the collapsable stock and shorter barrel characteristic of an M-4 or any short barreled rifle. Thanks for your help everyone.
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Stratmn