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[Mizatt10]

I am leaving for Bootcamp in June. I am seriously considering trying to make it to BUD/S. I have already been tested by my recruiter on the SEALs Screen Test just to see if I could do it, and I passed. The only thing Im not sure about is if I want to spend 24/7/365 training and preparing for war. Do you have any time for other things in life if you choose to be a SEAL? Do you just simply waste 6 or more years of your life? And if so, is it worth it anyway? Any replies would be helpful. Thanks.

[Mizatt10]

Bulldrinkingmerlot has helped me on this subject. No replies are neccessary, although I appreciate all the information you all would like to contribute. Thanks!

[Wazz]

Miz
I do not know what Mr. Bulldrinkingmerlot has advised you. But I underscore: Do not join the SEALs. With your preformed opinion that you would be wasting 6 years of your life in the SEALs I would not want you as my Point Man, my swim partner, or my back up man. Go invest your time in coiling line and splashing chromite around.

[Wetwash]

Mizatt.. Listen to Wazz..what i am reading here isd that all the SEALs on this site wasted their time while they were serving this country.. Whether you meant it this way or not .. that is what you said. Don't waste your time being a SEAL.. You will do well with a paint brush while others train to go in harms way.

[Sully]

Im not sure about is if I want to spend 24/7/365 training and preparing for war.

I'll chime in here and say: don't bother joining the military at all! What do you think you'll be doing in the fleet? While most of the Navy isn't down in the mud, they're still in the business of making war...why don't you "waste" your time somewhere else.

[DMANN]

Hell i would hate to be in BOOT with this guy and forget BUD's with him altogeather. I can see it now every one else is doing push ups and 8 counts cause this guy was a smart *** or too lazy to clean the toilet. WAZZ definetly said it though.

[DMANN]

The only thing Im not sure about is if I want to spend 24/7/365 training and preparing for war. Do you have any time for other things in life if you choose to be a SEAL? Do you just simply waste 6 or more years of your life? And if so, is it worth it anyway?


Oh and with this attitude you have already FAILED. You will FAIL thru BUD'S with this attitude and you will FAIL in life with this attitude.

[Doug]

I go with Wazz and Wetwash here - if you feel that being a SEAL is a waste of time - dont even try to go to BUD/S, because you will NOT make it. You have to want to be a SEAL24/7/365 in order to make it through. You have to comit. Your comment of being a SEAL as wasting time is offensive. If that is your attitude, why join? You hhave to want this more than anything.....My advice to you - Dont even try.....

[lauren78]

oh geez. the guy is simply asking a question. All he wants to know is if it will be worth his time to be a SEAL. he obviously isnt well informed and that's why he's on this site in the first place. I would be thinking the same thing. It is important to do research before one gets themselves involved in any type of commitment and that's all that this poor guy is doing.
I am not a seal, but i'll give my opinion. my husband is a SEAL and i can say that he and his friends do have a life outside the navy. we are always out doing whatever we want on the weekends (and weeknights at times). Being a SEAL takes up more time than many jobs, but i see my husband pretty much the same amount as my friend who's hubby is a computer engineer. her husband commutes from TX to CA every week! she doesnt see him at all during the week, only on weekends and it will be that way for the next 6 months. and she has a 1 yr old and a 2 yr old. The big difference is that her husband wont go on a 6 month deployment. Well my point is that any career you have you will most likely be putting a significant amount of time into it. that's just the way it is. But it's still possible to have a life outside of work.

[fish78]

Don't waste your time on this guy, he is the same one who offered to "chew me up ans spit me out" on the thread where I was ranting about OPSEC and PERSEC; he is an oxygen thief in the making.

[PJ]

oh geez. the guy is simply asking a question. All he wants to know is if it will be worth his time to be a SEAL. he obviously isnt well informed and that's why he's on this site in the first place. I would be thinking the same thing. It is important to do research before one gets themselves involved in any type of commitment and that's all that this poor guy is doing.


Lauren - the info you posted in your reply is correct if the original question is "is there life outside of SEALs",
however that was not the question - the question was "Do you just simply waste 6 or more years of your life? And if so, is it worth it anyway?". If you go into something with the attitude that you will not gain anything, then what is the point? And yes, you will have wasted your time. Obviously, being a SEAL has it's own rewards. And to reap those rewards there has to be 100% commitment.
And yes, there is the implied thought that being a SEAL is a waste of time in this thread - and that is a slap in the face to every SEAL - past, present & furture, weather it was meant to be or not.

[lauren78]

well i think everyone just jumped the gun a bit at the question. he was just asking. it's not like he said, well it seems like being a seal is a waste of time, but i'm gonna do it anyways. A lot of people do things to gain experience and sometimes it's not worth doing something if you dont think it's going to get you anywhere in life. It seems like that's all he asked and he got attacked. I just dont see why people got offended by the question.

[Doug]

Lauren-

Ask your husband if he is wasting his time being a SEAL. See if he gets offended or not. As PJ has put it, there must be 100% commitment to be a SEAL if that is what you want. We aren't "attacking" him, we are just letting him know that with his attitude of being a waste of time, he might as well not even try for it, bcause that attitude wont take him anywhere....especially in Naval Special Warfare.....

[lauren78]

Doug, i actually have asked my husband that question. I hold nothing back. He said no, he doesnt feel he's wasting his time of course. and he wasnt offended. I guess it's a legitimate question to ask someone when you're in a relationship with them. Many SEALs go on to do great things in the civilian world and many people want to hire them for their dedication and what they've learned during training. I'm sure there are other things too. But i dont think it's a waste of time at all. I just didnt know back then, so that's why i asked (: but i agree, if a person isnt gung ho on the idea of being a SEAL, then they probably wont enjoy the ride they'll take to get there. I know i wouldnt. The worst feeling in the world for me is being cold, wet and sandy.

[sealpup121]

lauren, from your previous post that I've read, you say your a SEAL wife."The only thing Im not sure about is if I want to spend 24/7/365 training and preparing for war. Do you have any time for other things in life if you choose to be a SEAL? Do you just simply waste 6 or more years of your life? And if so, is it worth it anyway?" "Do you just simply waste 6 or more years of your life?" Does this sound like 100% commitment to being a SEAL to you? It is painfully obvious you are not a SEAL. The reason we as the "Family" got offended is, here is a BOY who thinks that six years of his life maybe wasted, when all of us were willing to die for our country and team mates. This TOAD is worried about wasting six years. Yeah! I want him in my team , in a pigs eye. Now I'm gonna go sharpen my teeth.

[PJ]

Perhaps, the wording on the original question is the problem - maybe, the question could have been worded differently. Possibily, this youngun' didn't mean that being a SEAL is a waste of time unless he could spend his time as he wanted.

Has anyone noticed that he has not posted again - hmmmmm. Maybe, he did post what he meant - maybe to see the reaction from us all. Were we baited???

[Boatdrivers_Babe]

Were we baited???

Methinks it might have been something like that, sis. Either that or the kid just wanted a convenient place to vent and hasn't learned that venting is something best kept within the "Family." Some may fight like cats and dogs within the family, but just let an outsider poke at them and see the wagons circle.

Awaiting the crumbs from the goodies at your house via our "packages."

BB

[Swimmer2004]

I love this place, its a **** ing wolfpack....lol. You guys are great.
Lee

[Wazz]

Lauren
I am addressing not your position as a SEAL wife, but rather as a grammartist. When reading narrative stay with what is read. Do not rearranged the wording. Do not add words. Do not reslant the words. In Miz's case he asked if being a SEAL was a waste of time. This question was asked on a Web Site that supports the Navy SEALs, including your own husband. It does not take a Rocket Driver to note that Miz was taking a crack at the SEALs. And the end results of the answering posts should have been expected, and expectations were met.

I would not want Miz anywhere around me when a combat or aquatic emergency existed. He obviously has a great deal of reserve about full participation with the Navy SEALs. These type of persons do well in other, low key, occupations where hesitation can be tolerated.

Note, The SealPup uses the word "Toad" with correct placement and emphisis. I think in this case Toad is appropriate and excellent grammar.

Lauren, you do not want a Toad backing up your husband or having a Toad as his swim partner.

[Wetwash]

hehehe.. Lumpy land living amphibian....One of Pups favorates..

[Wetwash]

hehehe.. Lumpy land living amphibian....One of Pups favorates..

[mark]

Wow - Good stuff gents and ladies. There is actually intelligent life here at NavySEALs.com (Thank God!). One quick note for this strand. I had a fellow in my second platoon who was a good guy. Pretty solid operator, somewhat reserved but new guy that I thought would pull through. We gave him some ribbing in PR during a Kangaroo Court (which no-one escaped unscathed) - after which he become sullen...a warning sign. You see - he never had any intention of going on deployment, or better yet - backing any of us in a firefight. He was in it for the "ADVENTURE". and had we not made his life uncomfortable...he may have made that deployment, and gotten one or more of us killed. The reason I know that he had no intention of backing his teammates is that 30 days before deployment he went to see the chaplain. "I can't do this, he stated, it is against my morals" So he was out of ST3 and in CIVPAC in 60 days. What a waste of our taxpayer dollars and an absolute insult to the rest of us who couldn't wait to go into combat (not so lucky) and would have died for each other. The SEALs are unique (as are all SO warriors). We live and die by the sword, so to speak. The warrior class. So to view it as an "adventure"....or just another experience...is a complete insult. That is why most marriages fail in the SO community...tough to be a combat warrior and be married. That is why I left - to try the marriage route and see if I could apply the warrior principles in the business world. I can say with confidence that the business world pales in comparison. And the concientious objector...never heard from him again, and I will never talk to him if I see him again. He was a coward and he used you, the Navy and us to find himself with no intention of walking his talk. Back to the strand...our friend needs to think very deeply about what he wants in life - an adventure, or to be a warrior, to stand for something, or just get by like most Americans...the answer in aggregate of all of our young men will determine the future of America.
Mark D.
NavySEALs.com

[Wazz]

Mark
Excellent presentation.

Your point is one that I have started placing in my private emails when the younger men come to me in email. I advise that completing BUDS and achieving the Trident is not where it ends. That a SEAL will further be expected to go forth and kill young men his own age, and at the same time, be the target of death by young men his own age.

A combat unit is no place for a non-combatant.

[sirenx]

A lot of people do things to gain experience and sometimes it's not worth doing something if you dont think it's going to get you anywhere in life. It seems like that's all he asked and he got attacked. I just dont see why people got offended by the question



I believe that the job requires a knowledge of ones self to the extent that questions like MizMat's should not be a factor.

Lauren would it offend you if he was your intended and he showed the same reservations about marrying you and having children? Think of it as Miz Mat is your husband before the vows and he was questioning his desire to dedicate himself 100 percent to you and your potential offspring. Would you still want to risk marrying him? Now think of all the dead beat divorced fathers that fail in their responsibility and how much it hurts the women and children who are left alone to handle it all by themselves...now imagine instead of just being left alone you could be DEAD if he has that all too familiar midlife crisis....Perhaps that should give you a bit of perspective.....

[lauren78]

whatever, I still think people here are so overly dramatic. My husband found this board and he agrees.

[sirenx]

whatever, I still think people here are so overly dramatic. My husband found this board and he agrees.



Why did I even bother???? Your not blonde by any chance are you lauren?

[lauren78]

nope i'm not a blonde, are you? honestly sirenx i didnt even read what you had to say earlier. i guess i'm just too opinionated for this board. i think some of you need to realize that not all men want to be SEALs for the same reason. some want to do it for their country, some want to do it for themselves, some maybe want to just kick some ***. whatever their reasons are as long as they do it well, i give them credit. Realize that all professions get slammed upon so sometimes you will perhaps have people that question what you do.

[lauren78]

ok i read it-i think questioning a marriage and questioning someone's job are 2 totally different things. If someone questioned my job, i wouldnt be offended but if my husband had questioned marrying me, yes i'd be offended.

[sawillia]

ok i read it-i think questioning a marriage and questioning someone's job are 2 totally different things. If someone questioned my job, i wouldnt be offended but if my husband had questioned marrying me, yes i'd be offended.


L...

YOU’RE A HYPOCRITE.

If you don't like the board GET THE HELL OFF of it.

For These men their teammates are more important than marriage. Even I can see that. Every one of your posts are a waste of bandwidth and air.

Do the words:

HONOR
DEDICATON
LOYALTY

and most of all

TEAMMATE

Mean anything to you?

Save me the time and effort of reading your dribble. Just don't hit the post button...

[lauren78]

oh screw you. why dont you stop living your life vicariously through navy seals and get your own life. Any person whose job is more important than their marriage is a psycho. you're all a bunch of fakes. and i will stop posting when i feel like it.

[sawillia]

Any person whose job is more important than their marriage is a psycho. you're all a bunch of fakes. and i will stop posting when i feel like it.





oh screw you



So what does it feel like to be a REAL woman behind an anonymous website. Also, What does it feel like to have someone a couple of hundred miles away laugh at you so hard he pees himself?

You need counseling.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[outdoorguy]

Hello to everyone! Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I can see where you guys would be pissed off at the way mizatt presented his questions by using the word wasted and I totally agree he could have chosen his words a little more wisely, but when he said wasted I dont believe he meant what he said to a degree of how he used the word. I believe what the man is trying to say is , is he going to totally lose his civilian life and work 24/7 with no play time. Anyways, thats what I think. But Mizatt, a little advice, check out how you post next time, cuz they will eat you up and spit you out lol. Have a great day all! God Bless :)

[Romulus]

Lauren..
Here is something for you to think about.....
If I should fail my marriage I will survive.
If I should fail my job I will not......
What would you think would be more important??

Romulus.

[Sweetbriar]

lauren, good to see you back. Fire at will.

[PJ]

If you don't like the board GET THE HELL OFF of it.


Sheesh, Why do the post here need to come to this? Lauren, or anyone for that matter has a right to post here as long as it's in a civil manner. Like Mark said in his post, we were having a decent discussion. Discussions are NOT one sided. Discussions are made up of various opinions and each opinion has a right to be voiced.
The problem we have here is that cuzzing, insults, personal attacks, & threats come to easy. We tend to think that with anonymity comes the right to bash past resonable balance.
We are all guilty of being a bit rude and we all lose control to a point.

Oh Hell, I'm probably wasting my time.......you guys figure it out.

[sawillia]

Sheesh, Why do the post here need to come to this? Lauren, or anyone for that matter has a right to post here as long as it's in a civil manner. Like Mark said in his post, we were having a decent discussion. Discussions are NOT one sided. Discussions are made up of various opinions and each opinion has a right to be voiced.
The problem we have here is that cuzzing, insults, personal attacks, & threats come to easy. We tend to think that with anonymity comes the right to bash past resonable balance.
We are all guilty of being a bit rude and we all lose control to a point.

Oh Hell, I'm probably wasting my time.......you guys figure it out



PJ your right. Unfortunately I let my anger get ahold of my fingers. I have seen these posts too and I have been guilty of bashing. I have seen this user pop off and I just got ahead of myself.

I apologize and it will not happen again. I shall return to the shadows. I shouldn’t have posted on these SEAL section anyway. I know better.

Lauren for my edification, I don’t like the way you handle yourself and your opinion. You do have the right please. Disregard my previous post. You haven’t won… Don’t get all excited…

Shadowy…
SW

[Swimmer2004]

I think this pointless bickering is why Mr. Divine doesn't post more often, just a thought.

[PJ]

I apologize and it will not happen again. I shall return to the shadows.



I accept the apology for all the members -

And there is no need for you to return to the shadows.

[diesel828]

Any person whose job is more important than their marriage is a psycho. you're all a bunch of fakes.



Well then I guess there are a lot of psychotic SEALs then aren't there? I mean, if they truly weren't mentally deranged, then there would be no such thing as a high rate of divorce in the teams. Why? Because they would've left their jobs (SEAL) and lived with their wives.

[sealpup121]

whatever, I still think people here are so overly dramatic. My husband found this board and he agrees.

LOL!!!! Please correct me if I'm in error here. You are the one who was speaking in another post about the "overly dramatic" diatribe of killing and mutilation sea stories someone heard, someone telling right? You think WE are overly dramatic? Painfully LMAO