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bassistm14
03-19-2008, 08:37 AM
ok, ive noticed for some jobs in the military they require that both your parents be citizens of the US. Do the SEALs require this? and if so Is there a way that i can have it waivered? My dad came to the US for college. i am half Arabic.

mike0318sti
03-20-2008, 06:41 PM
Q. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to be eligible for SEAL
training?
A. Yes. You must be a U.S. citizen BEFORE attending BUD/S.
You are not eligible if your citizenship is pending. All SEAL
candidates must be eligible for a Secret-level security
clearance, and U.S. citizenship is part of the qualifying
criteria for the clearance.

That was from sealchallenge.navy.mil under FAQs. You must be a citizen to be a SEAL and your parents must be citizens/naturalized, and for secret I believe there is a certain amount of time that has to have passed from when they were naturalized, and you need a waiver as well.

bud/s sucks
03-21-2008, 09:00 AM
You should be fine. I have buddies with neither parent being a US Citizen.

edgar2904
03-21-2008, 10:00 AM
Q. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to be eligible for SEAL
training?
A. Yes. You must be a U.S. citizen BEFORE attending BUD/S.
You are not eligible if your citizenship is pending. All SEAL
candidates must be eligible for a Secret-level security
clearance, and U.S. citizenship is part of the qualifying
criteria for the clearance.

That was from sealchallenge.navy.mil under FAQs. You must be a citizen to be a SEAL and your parents must be citizens/naturalized, and for secret I believe there is a certain amount of time that has to have passed from when they were naturalized, and you need a waiver as well.



Mike, I know you guys might get sick and tired of these immigration questions, but what is your source for parents needing to be citizens/naturalized too (for a certain period)?

Is it part of the Secret-clearance requirements? If so, do you have a link for that?

Thanks

bassistm14
03-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Q. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to be eligible for SEAL
training?
A. Yes. You must be a U.S. citizen BEFORE attending BUD/S.
You are not eligible if your citizenship is pending. All SEAL
candidates must be eligible for a Secret-level security
clearance, and U.S. citizenship is part of the qualifying
criteria for the clearance.

That was from sealchallenge.navy.mil under FAQs. You must be a citizen to be a SEAL and your parents must be citizens/naturalized, and for secret I believe there is a certain amount of time that has to have passed from when they were naturalized, and you need a waiver as well.

I am a US citizen and a Saudi Arabia citizen. i have duel citizen ship because my mom is from the US and my dad is from Saudi Arabia. read the question before you post.

mike0318sti
03-22-2008, 03:59 PM
Ok, to clarify everything said above. The SEALChallenge.navy.mil website states you must be secret security eligible. I made a mistake in just going off of what my head recruiter knew on the subject. After checking out the Recruiting Manuals, both parents are not required to be citizens, however it requires a type 2 waiver, which from what I understand is not likely to be given from CNRC, that doesn't mean its not possible, I just haven't heard from anyone that has seen it get approved recently. The information is from the Nuclear Field information, the SEAL information was not as specific and doesn't go into detail on security requirments. In regards to length of time your family members have been naturalized effecting you getting approved, its just one of the things they will take into account, if it hasn't been very long then they may not approve it. We don't make the decisions on the waivers, thats done higher up, so I don't have documentation on that aspect. Like any other waiver, you write down your explaination of the situation and someone in CNRC takes a look at it and makes the determination. Sorry about the confusion guys.

spollen_usn
03-23-2008, 07:21 PM
I have an idea.. Ask a SEAL Motivator. He will know the correct answer with the most up-to-date regulations reguarding this topic.

mmaakuma
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Bass, before you tell people to reread your post, maybe you should read their post. Their post summed it up pretty clearly that only you must be a citizen. However, it didn't go into details about security clearances.

You need a security clearance to be a SEAL. You must give up your Saudi citizenship. Security clearances don't allow anyone to have dual citizenships.

When people are investigating your parents for a clearance, it might be suspicious as to why your dad's been in the US so many years and hasn't become a citizen. Saudi Arabia is in name an ally but still a haven for many terrorists, which will cause the investigators to dig very deep. It will arouse suspicion that will only be augmented as to why your dad never tried to obtain US citizenship.

bassistm14
03-25-2008, 08:38 PM
Bass, before you tell people to reread your post, maybe you should read their post. Their post summed it up pretty clearly that only you must be a citizen. However, it didn't go into details about security clearances.

You need a security clearance to be a SEAL. You must give up your Saudi citizenship. Security clearances don't allow anyone to have dual citizenships.

When people are investigating your parents for a clearance, it might be suspicious as to why your dad's been in the US so many years and hasn't become a citizen. Saudi Arabia is in name an ally but still a haven for many terrorists, which will cause the investigators to dig very deep. It will arouse suspicion that will only be augmented as to why your dad never tried to obtain US citizenship.

ok i understand but my dad lives in Saudi Arabia. i live here in america with my mom who was born here. they are separated i see him about once a year ect.
so would they still question it? and i would give up my Saudi citizenship too. with no questions

mmaakuma
03-25-2008, 09:12 PM
I can't say as I'm not the one in charge of security clearances. Your parents being divorced may help your case. It's not a question of whether they are going to investigate or not because that's a given. They will investigate. A buddy of mine had trouble with his security clearance because his wife's parents were from Cuba.

I wouldn't worry about it so much. You're going to have to make it through BUD/s before sweating about details you can't change in regards to your clearance.

bassistm14
03-25-2008, 09:31 PM
k thanks and thanks everybody for helping me with this.
and if you still have more info it would be greatly appreciated.