Eating right with little time

[prostyle]

Yes, I did search through the posts before I wrote this. I found some post kind of realted to this but nothing that really answered my question. So pretty much I'm 17 115 lbs 5'8" and in high school, I hear you should eat a good 6 meals a day to gain weight, I don't want to be huge because big guys don't float very well. I don't exactly have the time to cook a lot mainly in the middle of the day breakfast and dinner i can cook. Also I run out of things to cook I get tried of PBJ's for lunch and trukey sandwhiches. so maybe one of you guys can give me a little over veiw of what you do for quick good meals. yes I do eat fruits veggies through out the day, trial mix and stuff but those are just snacks I'm looking for meals also how do you scheduale your meals through out the day

[king henry viii]

eat whatever is on the daily lunch menu in the cafeteria. maybe get 2 servings of everything. I was in high school once, so yeah it's tough to get in like 5-6 solid meals a day.

I remember that in between 2nd and 3rd period I would chow down a bag of peanuts and like 2 granola bars or maybe some fig newtons. basically try to eat every 3 hours. being 5'8" and 115, you could put on a good 40-50 lbs of muscle.

maybe you could take packets of some sort of protein powder or muscle milk or w/e, keep it in your locker, mix it between classes, and drink that ****.

eat before bed too. cottage cheese is good, 2 huge bowls of raisin bran, chocolate milk.

that's all i got.

[scskowron]

cottage cheese is good, 2 huge bowls of raisin bran, chocolate milk.


I don't know about 2 huge bowls of raisin bran before bed. All those carbohydrates (bran, but simple carbs nonetheless) right before bed is a good way to put on fat I think. Not to mention you'll have a terrible time sleeping when you have to make a bathroom trip in the middle of the night.

[prostyle]

yeah, alright I was just worried that school lunch isn't any good but idk. Also there is no way I'm getting fat lol being 115 you can tell I have a really fast metabolism. Do those Navy seal nutrion guides have recipes in em'?

[king henry viii]

I don't know about 2 huge bowls of raisin bran before bed. All those carbohydrates (bran, but simple carbs nonetheless) right before bed is a good way to put on fat I think. Not to mention you'll have a terrible time sleeping when you have to make a bathroom trip in the middle of the night.

I never had any problems with it back in the day.

[itsallorganek]

I'm in college right now and am having the same problem trying to structure a good meal plan for myself. I'm a pretty big guy so I need a good number of calories a day, especially when I am training hard. I have the opposite problem, I have weight lifted my whole life and all i was ever concerned about was slamming down the protein and gaining weight. Its tough to gain muscle and not also gain some fat so now I am trying to shed the extra weight and lean down. I have a hard time with running because of how big I am (6'5 270ish). I am trying to cut back down to around 230-240, which is what I weighed when I was in the best shape I have ever been in. But anyway, back to meals, I have not been eating as well as I should because of always being on the go, but I never give in to fast food anymore. the closest thing I eat to fast food is a subway turkey sandwich. My advice would be just to eat clean and eat high in protein especially if your trying to gain weight. Pack yourself a lunch. Make it the night before and just grab and go on your way out the door. Good luck!!

[sonovthegun]

I agree with Henry there in that you have a good, natural eating schedule. Any time you can go to your locker go.

PB is one of my faves [haven't had the sh!t in TWO YEARS, it's like no one in Russia has ever heard of it.] Turkey, I was told, is the easiest to assimilate protein. Brown rice mixed with stir fried veg at home is a sure fired winner.

You could try, since your metabolism is so damn high, buying some organic pizzas [Amy's are good and have whole wheat crusts] and eating one or two if you really want some fuel.

Really, choose your favorite complex carbs and easy to store proteins and stuff your damn face every two classes.

I, personally, would be more selective about school lunch. But my mom is a bit of a hippy orgainic food nut, and it rubbed off. But I'd say, eat like a pig [within reason, not cookies and ice cream all the time] till you hit a moderate weight and muscle build up.

[bigv123]

I know that I've written about 10 pages of information regarding diet on this forum already. But, to get you started off on the right foot...

What is/are your goals?

How much time do you realistically have to training?

What is your current training schedule and program?

V

[luddle]

What I did notice today is that those lunchables have gotten a million times healthier then when they did first come out. Average about 17g protein, and 69g of carbs per serving. The only downside I found was they're still high in sodium, 590mg.

I'm in the same boat as you, minus an inch, add a year, and 20 lbs. 18-135lbs-5'7''. So I have just started trying to keep those protein bars in my bag for in between classes.

[scskowron]

I never had any problems with it back in the day.

Well if it works, do it. I love raisin bran but no matter how many hours I wait after eating it, I always have to run to the bathroom at the worst possible times ever.

[prostyle]

Thanks I'll try to put all that all into to one.

Now for Bigv I searched and I found some stuff related but they were for other peoples goals and like I said before not what I was looking for.

But anyways

Goals: obviously become a Navy SEAL lol, Put on a good 30 lbs in the next 2-3 years. I have talked to my doctor and the fitness director where i work out at about gaining weight and I told them how all the protien shakes weren't working and they both said maybe your body isn't ready to put on a bunch of weight but the time will come.

Time wise: lets see get up at 6:00 leave to school at 7:20 so I usualy have a good breakfast. I get out of school at 11:00 on one day and 1:20 on the other, well on wednesdays I get out real early. Then I'll have lunch usualy what ever the school is serving or like a PBJ and a turkey sandwhich. Then I work out and depending on what i'm doing it's takes 2-3 hours. After I go home eat something usualy not very big just like a sandwich or left overs. go to work (every day but tuesday and wednesday) for two hours then go home if my mom didn't cook something which is all most all the time I have to find something to cook.

Training: M/W/F/S
Monday- Timed run, PT, Swim
Wednesday- Pack run, Pt Swim
Friday- Distance run, PT, Swim
Saturday- Sprints, PT, Swim

Prostyle1040@hotmail.com

[prostyle]

Hey big v I was just wondering if you ever check back with those questions you ask people when they ask you about nutrion. Not to be rude but in the daily meal thread you asked some guy some questions and another guy and I answered them as well you never answered me and I don't think the other guy either, so I posted this one, you tell me you have already posted stuff on this well like I said it wasn't what I was looking for so you asked me some questions and I answered them. I'm not saying your life needs to revolve around this forum but I have seen you post other stuff since then so I just need to know if I should find someone else to ask? :)

[bigv123]

This thread?

http://navyseals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157005&page=2

I think you'll find that I did reply.


As far as the questions I posed, I'll quote myself:
But, to get you started off on the right foot...

That means that with that information in hand, and ALL the wealth of other information already posted on these boards, you can answer everyone of your questions.

Here's what we have so far:
Age - 17
Weight - 115
Height - 5'8"
Goals: add 30 pounds (I presume you mean muscle), get in shape for BUD/s
Time: seems that you have pretty much every afternoon and evening available as well as some time in the mornings.
Current Program: once/day (MWFS), 2-3 hours at a time including running, PT and swimming (I.E. a mess)

OK, here's today's nugget of information for you. It'll be up to you to take it and do a little research on your own and come back with more questions. First, do you NEED to add muscle, or just WANT to add muscle? How do you know the difference? At 5'8" and 115 it's probably a safe bet that you do indeed need to *** some muscle mass. But, the question remains...how do you KNOW that. Well, there's 2 criteria. #1 - strength. What can and what can't you do currently? If you can bust out 120 push-ups and 120 sit-ups then crank out 35 pull-ups...I would argue that your "strength" levels are fine. (We're really talking muscular endurance here, but, I lathered on in another thread extensively about that) #2 - body composition. It's likely that you're a lanky kid. It's also possible that you carry very little muscle and a good chunk of fat. Not likely, but possible. That means you need to take some measurements and get a decent, ballpark figure for your body fat. There are 5 or 6 methods for doing this by yourself, in your home. Some require a tape measure and others require a caliper. Use as many different methods as you have tools for. If you only have a tape measure that should be 3 iirc. Run the numbers on one of the thousands of body fat % calculators on the web and post the results back. I'm 90% confident I already know what that answer is going to be roughly, but, do it anyway. We don't take unnecessary risks.

Next you need to determine if your current workout program can or will get you to your goal(s). Or, is there a more efficient use of that time to make better progress in less time? My philosophy is to turn your weakness into your strength. Thus, if it's your "strength" movements that are your weakness, then your training program needs to focus a little more on developing those aspects. Which leads us to the next question. What are your athletic strengths and weaknesses. And, how do you know for sure? PST scores are the first measure here...but certainly not the last.

At this point you should be getting a good idea of the CONCEPTS and IDEAS used to craft a program. These are the same CONCEPTS and IDEAS that I've lathered on about ad naseum in several other threads. That's the difference between "reading" and "understanding". When you read through these threads make sure you get the information that's contained. But also, you need to crunch on that information a little and make sure you understand it. The "How's"...the "Why's" are very very important. It's been said that THE most important word in the English language is "Why".

On a side note, and i don't want to overstate this, I never said in any way, shape, or form in this thread that I was going to spoon feed you answers to all your questions. There are some individuals that I choose to work with that I will do that very thing. But, those are outstanding people in my estimation and have earned that privilege. If I make a commitment to work with someone here or elsewhere, I view that as an oath...a promise. And, I take it very, very seriously. My time is limited. I work 40+ hours a week, go to college 3/4 time and still find time to workout 3 times a day. The limited time I have here on this board is a blessing, and very restricted. So, even if I had the inclination to work with every single person here that wants/needs help, it's just not logistically possible. It nothing personal. I'll be happy to answer some questions and point you in the right direction, but, you're going to have to do the leg work. Hell, it might even work out better in the long run that way. Read. Find your answers. If you're confused, explain what you think and where you're confused and I'll help. But, don't post here with the attitude that you're due some type of service. Nobody owes you anything....here or anywhere else for that matter.

Get organized, collect your data, do some research, read, then come back with questions based on all of that.

V

[prostyle]

Thank you, I didn't mean to come across with an attitude I compeletely understand how it would sound like that. I only ask you these questions do to the fact I have seen your name all over the forum so I figure you know quite a bit and you were the only one to give any more of an answer than just well eat a bunch. Now for the whole body fat thing I can tell you right now I don't in any way shape or form have more than 5% body fat on me. I'm skinny and it's all muscle, I'm not saying I'm super strong, but for my weight I most deffinetly am. My weak point is PT, I have always been a runner, and swimming is just of a matter of keeping myself from getting bored. I just have not been able to pack on weight like other guys, I saw you said some where that you take 3 protien shakes a day well, I use to take all that stuff and never worked after months of taking it religously... nothing. The original reason for this post was to see how people planed their meals through out the day that are or use to be in my same situation, also what do they cook, everyone will say eat carbs protien blah blah blah but what do you guys cook like some recipes or soemthing. The only reason that I want to put on weight is because I feel that I need to, I know after years of training you will become stronger but for some reason I feel that I need to be bigger to be a SEAL, I know my body will put on weight it self as I become older. Though as I think as long as you can do what is asked of you and then some, you will be fine correct?

[bigv123]

OK, fair enough. Now go and put some numbers to what you say. You might just be surprised...who knows? Do the footwork up front and you'll get rewarded on the backend.

V