acetaminophen and nitric oxide fatigue

[christoph83]

So daily i take Nitric Oxide before my work out, and it works great. Yesterday was my PST my knee was hurting to I took 2 tylenol and my NO. Now my swim is usually my strong point I usually pull a 9:23-10:00. But yesterday half way through extreme fatigue set in and i almost couldnt finish, I did though with 20 seconds to spare. Afterwards i developed tunnel vision and an extreme headache. Any think the combo of the two had anything to do with this....

[bigv123]

I would caution you about taking NO before cardiovascular exercise in general. That's NOT where you use NO. NO is for lifting and maximizing muscle mass gains from those workouts. Frankly, not the most important thing if you're prepping for BUD/S or something similar. In fact, the vasodilation and subsequent increase of blood flow and thus the reduced incidence of hypoxia will give you a false sense of security. Sure, you're able to run and swim a little bit faster and run a little bit further today...on the NO. What happens when you get to Coronado and can't use it anymore and suddenly you can't PT as well as you could a month ago?? That's right, you're going to get hammered. NO for use in long-term cardiovascular conditioning is a bad, bad idea.

just my $0.02...take it for what it's worth,
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[thatguy2695]

is taking NO for lifting bad though?

[bigv123]

No. That's it's primary purpose. Guys found that they can get better pumps during their workouts using NO. I've taken in off and on for a few years now, and the difference is startling at first. But, at the end of the day, you're still shooting yourself in the foot if the plan is SF training somewhere. Once you're out there, you're not going to have it and while you could do 100 push-ups and 25 pull-ups at your home gym, all of a sudden on the grinder in Coronado you're only able to knock out 70 and 15. Your overall strength level is lower and thus you have to work with that much more perceived effort to do the same work.

NO is a good choice for adding muscle, but, not for the strength-to-mass ratio. Because of all the aerobic work that goes on at BUD/S and presumably every SF training cadre, you want as much strength as you can possibly pack into the smallest body you can. The less you weigh, the more efficient you'll be as a runner and a swimmer. So, while there IS a direct relationship between strength and muscle mass (specifically muscle cross-sectional area) what you really want is to maximize the strength::mass ratio. And frankly, a good argument can be made that you should be focusing more on muscular endurance rather than strength anyway. But, I addressed that in another thread last week.

Remember, every body is different. Some guys WILL need to add some mass just to get their raw strength up. Some guys, like yours truly, actually need to dump some muscle mass to make themselves more efficient runners and swimmers. And, a lot of guys will be in the middle where they don't really need to make any serious body composition changes. Think about the activities that you're going to be doing for hours on end at BUD/S. Now think about what kind of training and exercise will best prepare you for that...

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[christoph83]

Never knew it would crash my strength after not using it. I will halt the use of it as of now. Any ideas if the acetaminophen was the cause of my endurance crash?

[bigv123]

DD would be the best to answer that. It's out of my league.

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