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[cignus]

Hey guys,

Im a new member but not new to this forum. Ive been a shadow for the last few months, just sitting back and soaking up the info. Intro: Im an AW2 Aviation Rescue Swimmer. Ive been in the Navy for 6 years. I have wanted to go SWCC for the past few years, but wanted to do a full sea tour as an AW to see everything the AW community had to offer. Well its time for me to go to shore duty and i am not satisified as an AW, so now that my sea tour is done im seriously physically/mentally preparing and looking to start a package in Jan 09. I need some time to improve my fitness.

My stats look like this:

26/5'11/185

Latest PST scores:

Swim: 11:20(50 meter pool)
9:45 (25 meter pool)
Push ups: 100
Sit ups: 75
Run: 9:26
Pull ups: 20

[joshdupre]

If you want to submit a package in Jan09 then start the package in August. I started mine this past Aug and I am still waiting for my 1306 to come back so I can fax my package off. Also keep in mind to that if your over 6 years you need a waiver but it shouldn't be a big deal.

MR2

[cignus]

I did not know that, thanks for the heads up!

[Blenk11]

First off, nice scores on your PST. I wonder why you time is so much fast in a 25-meter pool? I am used to swimming in a 25 yard pool and when I took my PST in a 50-meter pool I actually swam it faster. Maybe that was just me. Just as Josh said earlier, get that package started ASAP because I started my application process back probably in April and finally got orders in December. A lot of us in here are dissatisfied 2nd and 3rd classes that are looking for something more high speed. Again, welcome to the forum. K, Gau-17 and SeaSpectre are some of the ex-team guys who give invaluable advice and maybe some of us wanna-be's can help.

STS2/SS

[bigv123]

I would guess that it's getting twice the number of wall push offs that makes the difference. The pool I have access to is a 25m as well. I haven't seen a 50m pool in the entire city of Austin. That's more than half a football field...good grief.

V

[cignus]

Blenk,

Thanks for the welcome. After watching Stew Smiths CSS video I have learned to perfect the kick off the wall to maximize the distance I get from each kick. My guess is that in a 25-meter pool I am able to take advantage of the extra kicks. Also when I swim, I switch the side of my body that I swim on each lap. When I swim a 25m pool I am only swimming 25m on each side before I switch to the other side, therefore staying fresh on each side. In a 50m pool I am swimming twice the distance on each side before I switch sides possibly getting somewhat tired and slowing down on each side before I use my other side. I have been keeping a swim log to analyze my swim times and this is the best explanation that I can think of. I would always use a 50m pool but my pool hours are different at different times of the day.

A little off the topic. I know that they are incorporating tactical crossfit into the pre sof training. I herd a rumor that they are incorporating crossfit into BUDs as well. I figured that since SWCC and BUDs are run by the same command if they were doing it at one school then they would be doing it at the other. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? I have been doing the tactical crossfit WOD's combined with some of the Stew Smiths 12 weeks to BUDs workouts. Both are great workouts but also very different animals. Should I be concentrating of Stew's workouts or the WOD's, or is a combo of both a good idea?

[Blenk11]

I am doing the 12-weeks to Bud/s workout as well. Awesome workout isn't it...

STS2/SS

[Lockedown20]

How is the 12-weeks to Bud/s in comparison to the Bud/s warning order??

[cignus]

Lockedown,

I havent started the warning order yet. After looking at the two workouts it looks to me like the BUDs warning order starts out really easy and gradually gets harder, which is good for not getting injured. The Stew's 12 weeks to BUDs starts out really high paced and he even states that you really need to be in good shape before starting it. Stew's workouts are very long!

[Lockedown20]

yeah i did the first 9 weeks of the warning order and had good results. Now I do a different work out and will pick up on the warning order again when I get closer to being done with school. It seems like if you can do the warning order then you should be good to go. Thanks for the input!

[Blenk11]

If you read on the back of the "Complete Guide to Navy Seal Fitness" Stew Smith's 12 week workout has a ridiculous success rate. Not saying the warning order doesn't. Stew did work at the Naval Academy preparing officers to get ready for BUD/S which most made it. To be honest though, any of these workout regiments are good and you will get good results from them.

STS2/SS

[forestrunner3]

I am currently an Aviation Physiology Technician Corpsman who plans on going SWCC. I am starting my package now but I have a few questions for anyone who has gone through the process. Since my command is a small one getting my 1306 approved should not be a problem so I was wondering what the average time from submitting the package to getting a class date is. Secondly what if any advice should one expect of the training course for BCT/CQT? I have seen a lot of class videos, thanks to youtube and know a few guys who came from SBT 20 but they were support personnel and could only give me intel on what the day to day at an SBT were like. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance.

[NavyMA1221]

It should only take about 2 weeks after you submitted you package to get your orders, and probably about 3 months before you have to class up.
(i am basing my answer on my personal experiance, it may be diffrent for you though)

As far as the day to day at training goes... I'll let you know in a few weeks.

[TS_223]

Took 11 days from the day that the completed package was faxed, to the day that my orders showed up on BUPERS. My class-up date was more like four to five months away.

[swcc-wife]

Secondly what if any advice should one expect of the training course for BCT/CQT?

I pulled this info straight from http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/swcc/swccschool.aspx , the "Official U.S. Navy SEAL Information Web Site"

"SWCC Basic Crewman Training (BCT) - Naval Amphibious Base - Naval Special Warfare Command

Instructors of the SWCC Basic Crewman Training course train, develop, and assess SWCC candidates in physical conditioning, water competency, teamwork, and mental tenacity. This course starts with a two-week indoctrination. The SWCC Basic Crewman Training is five weeks long. Physical conditioning with running, swimming, and calisthenics grows harder as the weeks progress. Students? abilities, mental fortitude and teamwork skills are tested during an arduous 72 hour long evolution involving little sleep, constant exposure to the elements, underway boat and swimming events, and a test of navigational skills and boat tactics. SWCC students participate in weekly timed runs, timed obstacle course evolutions, pool, bay and ocean swims, and learn small boat seamanship. Upon the completion of SWCC BCT, students advance to Combat Qualification Training.

Crewman Qualification Training (CQT)

Instructors of Crewman Qualification Training (CQT) train, develop, and qualify SWCC candidates in basic weapons, seamanship, first aid, and small unit tactics. This phase of training is fourteen weeks in length. Physical training here is geared to prepare the student to meet the requirements of the operational Special Boat Teams. CQT concentrates on teaching Maritime Navigation, communications, waterborne patrolling techniques, marksmanship and engineering. The student also receives an introduction to the NSW Mission Planning Cycle, enabling him to participate in the planning, briefing, execution, and debriefing of an NSW mission from their tasking, to launch point, and on to their combat objective, where students apply all the techniques they have acquired during training."

Surf this site, there's a lot of good info there.

[forestrunner3]

Thanks so much for the intel. Ill keep you guys up to date with any news and hopefully will see you all soon.