Running vs Swimming

[wickesserjr]

Hey all,

The WODs here kick ***(specifically my ***) but I am not able to swim because I do not have access to a pool, nor do I have access to a row machine. So, I was wondering for every 500m of swimming prescribed in the WODs how far should I run? I tried to figure this out on my own by looking up calorie expenditure charts but none of them were very specific in terms of pace for either the running or swimming so I couldn't really determine an accurate comparison. I was thinking 2-3 times the distance for a run as prescribed for a swim but I wanted to get the educated opinion from someone who is technically proficient at both swimming and running and does them both regularly. Thanks for your time in advance.

[king henry viii]

Hey all,

The WODs here kick ***(specifically my ***) but I am not able to swim because I do not have access to a pool, nor do I have access to a row machine. So, I was wondering for every 500m of swimming prescribed in the WODs how far should I run? I tried to figure this out on my own by looking up calorie expenditure charts but none of them were very specific in terms of pace for either the running or swimming so I couldn't really determine an accurate comparison. I was thinking 2-3 times the distance for a run as prescribed for a swim but I wanted to get the educated opinion from someone who is technically proficient at both swimming and running and does them both regularly. Thanks for your time in advance.


the BUD/S warning order says if you can't swim then bike for twice as long. Just ask Lance Armstrong how good cycling is.

[leahy_j]

the king is right about the buds warning order. bike twice as long as you would swim...but dont ***** out on the biking, bust your *** on that bike. and if you get the opportunity to swim instead of biking, do so because it is worlds apart from cardio workouts on dry ground. you're lungs will benefit so much more from swimming than they would from biking. also, mastering the combat sidestroke technique is very important. and you obviously cant do that from a bike

[wickesserjr]

I appreciate the feedback. So you would recommend not substituting swimming with running but to bike instead?

[snow85]

let me just say that there's a HUGE debate about what works your lungs more.

IF you have a road bike, that's what you need to ride, in head gear.

i recommend that you go to your community pool, ymca, where ever, and see what they can do for you re: pool usage. you'd be surprised what they might be willing to give when you tell them you're training to get to BUD/S.

[swhite52]

wickesserjr,
Im kinda concerned for ya, substituting biking/running because you dont have access to a pool is great and all but what happens when the ask you to actually swim either breast or sidestroke? The strokes are all about technique which can only be developed by actually doing it....Hope you find a pool soon. best of luck

[hawks]

There really is no substitute for swimming. I swim for my highschool and I decided to try cross country to help me get into shape for the season. I lost fifteen pounds and greatly improved my run times, but when I got in the pool I was surprised by not being able to swim nearly as far as I used to. In my opinion, they are two different things that cannot be interchanged.

[asixe]

Biking is great for the muscles that you will be using when kicking with fins. I watched many rollbacks decrease their swim times dramatically with a regiment of biking and swimming. Substitute? If you don't have access to a pool find access. Running and Swimming are the only two things you will be graded on for the first part of BUD/S. They are paramount. You cannot go into BUD/S without being able to kick your *** off for 90 mins of sidestroke. Find a way to get to the pool and ALWAYS do sidestroke with fins.

[Nihilo]

There really is no substitute for swimming. I swim for my highschool and I decided to try cross country to help me get into shape for the season. I lost fifteen pounds and greatly improved my run times, but when I got in the pool I was surprised by not being able to swim nearly as far as I used to. In my opinion, they are two different things that cannot be interchanged.

This is false.

[king henry viii]

This is false.

these are all opinions, dude. Why don't you say why you think it's false.

[Nihilo]

these are all opinions, dude. Why don't you say why you think it's false.

Swimming is about your form, it's why you see a fat person great at swimming but can't run to save his life..or a doughnut.

[Illmaxic]

we all know it is about form smart guy. that wasn't the question his royal highness was posing to you.

[Nihilo]

we all know it is about form smart guy. that wasn't the question his royal highness was posing to you.

It doesn't make sense.

[Illmaxic]

it makes perfect sense son!

[Nihilo]

it makes perfect sense son!

I hope I see you at BUD/s.

[StoicSean]

:D I just had to laugh at these last few posts. Sorry I have nothing productive to add.

[itsallorganek]

watch out ill hes gonna get ya.... :D

[dive doc]

Wick,

you can substitute the swimming with running or biking. There are several different opinions as to what works. But realistically there is no real substitute for being in the water, any swimmer will tell you that. The longer you are out of the water, the more it will affect your times, technique and performance, even a couple of weeks can have an impact on you.

Do your best, train hard and bust your *** no matter what way you train as has been menioned above. But you MUST find a way to get in the water, as much as you can. Beg, borrow or steal, you should do your very best to swim as often as you can. It really is as simple as that. If you dont, there is a high probability that you will not be able to meet the swim times and not make it through BUD/S.

Best of luck.

DD

[scskowron]

Wick,
Beg, borrow or steal


How ironic it would be if your efforts to train for BUD/S prevented you from getting the security clearance!

[dive doc]

Now that would be an interesting conversation with the police :-)

You see I ran 5 miles, then "borrowed" a bike, "begged" (quite persuasively i might add) with the manager of the pool to let me swim for 90 mins (while he sat by quietly helped by the duck tape of course, so that i could train in peace and not be disturbed) and all because im training to go to BUD/S officer, im sure you understand sir, but i HAD to swim!!!

Ironic is not the word dude!!

DD out!!