Quick question for the experts

[NavyMA1221]

So my first question is, i am eligable for the E5 exam in march, but i will be in Indoc, will i still be able to take the test? I would assume so but i am not sure how it will work. Second it says on my orders that i must extend/reenlist with in 30 days of recieving my orders, but i thought there was a form that i would be filling out at indoc stating some thing along the lines of "at the completion of training i am obligated to serve 36 months" does any one have any info on this, i havent talked to my CCC yet but i am not sure he is the best source of information on the matter anyway...

My next question is for anyone who wants to answer it, how do you guys explain SWCC when some one askes about it?

MA3

[joshdupre]

I always answer the question by saying they are like the SEALs, they insert and extract them and also conduct VBSS, and patrol waterways. Then people usually are like oh yea ok. I don't know if they have a clue and I don't know if I explain it the best but that is what I normally say.

MR2

[Johan422]

SWCC has a unique ability to conduct military actions that are beyond the capability of conventional military forces. SWCC's are the masters of maritime Special Operations, radio communications, engineering, weapons, parachuting, first aid, tactics and employ their specialized training, equipment, and tactics conducting missions worldwide. SWCC's are superbly trained in all enviroments and have the will to succeed in any given scenario.

[sk8m99]

sometimes you can work the system. You can extend for 6 months for your school. If anything happens, such as a DOR or a med drop then you can either get out, or reenlist and get your SRB. This does not always work though. I would talk to your CCC and maybe even call up a SWCC motivator, and talk to many other people who have done it. The navy will always try to screw you. But there is always a way not to let that happen.

[GAU-17]

Just tell then in you best words about the job and If that does not work then tell then that when Team Guy get in trouble, we are the guys they call to get then out.

[Kinnikinik]

I tell them I drive really fast boats with lots of guns on them. That doesn't usually satisfy them so I ask them if they know about the "River Rats" in Vietnam. If so I tell them we are the decendants of those guys (thanks to John Kerry I can tell them about Swift Boats too). If they still stare at me blankly I ask them if they have seen Apocolypse Now. If they haven't seen that I simply say, "There are two types of Special Warfare in the Navy, SEALs and SWCC. SWCC insert and extract SEALs, do boardings of boats, and conduct inshore reconnassance."

Which soon follows the question,

"So you guys are like SEALs?"

Which I respond dejectedly, "Yeah, we are just like the SEALs."

Can someone call a Sheen brother and see if we can get a SWCC movie made already?

[NavyMA1221]

Kinnikinik, do you have any insite on the first two questons i had about the test/ extending? Any reply would be greatly appreciated.

MA3

[lotspeich]

Can someone call a Sheen brother and see if we can get a SWCC movie made already?

Russell Crowe and Jason Statham are the leaders of an evil pirate gang that is terrorizing the pacific trade routes...The brave sailors in SBT-X have 48 hours to stop them from making everyone in the world want to talk like a member of Manchester United.

I think this movie could happen. First there needs to be a Boat Guy video game so every one knows who the F SWCCs are (SOCOM 8: Wet Work by EA, ha ha).

[SeaSpectre]

LOL-----seems like there HAS to be a game before a movie in this day and age.

[FAITHY]

Regarding the "Extending / Re-enlisting" question; If you are required to do either in order enter a specific school and don't make it, you still do the time! This is executed upon receiving orders to the school. If you do not wish to comply, don't accept the orders. How's that for motivation?

[Kinnikinik]

Kinnikinik, do you have any insite on the first two questons i had about the test/ extending? Any reply would be greatly appreciated.

MA3

You will have the ability to take your exam during indoc. Make sure you tell them when you check in that you are eligible.

You will sign your extension when you check out with your current PSD. Just by attempting SWCC you are obliserving for a while.

K

[swcc-wife]

You will have the ability to take your exam during indoc. Make sure you tell them when you check in that you are eligible.

You will sign your extension when you check out with your current PSD. Just by attempting SWCC you are obliserving for a while.

K

Actually, my husband ran into both of these issues as well.

He checked into the command in late August, but classes weren't to start until early September. The exam date fell BEFORE indoc (by about 4 days), but he was told that he could not test until the next cycle. He was test eligible. Now, he was testing for E-6, so I'm not sure if that had something to do with it.

As far as the OBLISERV goes, my husband's enlistment was up in Nov. So, what the command did was give him 2-6 month extensions, with the first one being completed right at the end of CQT. Then, once he graduates, he can re-enlist, get his bonus, and cancel the 2nd 6 month extension.

Hope this helps.

[palmach]

SWCC has a unique ability to conduct military actions that are beyond the capability of conventional military forces. SWCC's are the masters of maritime Special Operations, radio communications, engineering, weapons, parachuting, first aid, tactics and employ their specialized training, equipment, and tactics conducting missions worldwide. SWCC's are superbly trained in all enviroments and have the will to succeed in any given scenario.Are the Army boat drivers on the
same level as the Nav?Since they,are never talked about.

[swcc-wife]

Are the Army boat drivers on the
same level as the Nav?Since they,are never talked about.

It doesn't seem so. This is this info I pulled from GoArmy.com:

"Watercraft Operator (88K)

Army operations aren't strictly limited to land. Ocean going harbor craft are often used to support operations throughout the continental United States and overseas. It's up to members of the Army watercraft team to navigate, pilot, and maintain these watercraft. Army watercraft soldiers have unique opportunities to embark upon specialized landing craft, gain valuable skills in vessel navigation, or be part of a tug boat crew, moving needed equipment on barges in local harbors or on longer open ocean voyages. Watercraft operators are part of a piloting team using electronic positioning systems, handheld navigation tools, and traditional watch standing procedures aboard many of the Army's watercraft. Watercraft Operators are primarily responsible for navigation, cargo operations and supervising other Soldiers on Army watercraft. Some of your duties as a Watercraft Operator may include:

* Navigating watercraft
* Consulting maps, charts, weather reports and navigation equipment
* Operating amphibious craft during troop landings
* Docking and undocking vessels
* Sending and receiving messages with radios, beacons and signal flags
* Operating and maintaining lifeboats and vessel fire equipment
* Securing all types of cargo using capstans, winches, hoists and davits
* Reporting navigational hazards to the vessel master while underway
* Identifying and interpreting single-letter international code signal flags
* Maintaining boats and deck equipment
* Dropping and weighing anchors
* Keeping ship logs'

Hope this helps.

[palmach]

It doesn't seem so. This is this info I pulled from GoArmy.com:

"Watercraft Operator (88K)

Army operations aren't strictly limited to land. Ocean going harbor craft are often used to support operations throughout the continental United States and overseas. It's up to members of the Army watercraft team to navigate, pilot, and maintain these watercraft. Army watercraft soldiers have unique opportunities to embark upon specialized landing craft, gain valuable skills in vessel navigation, or be part of a tug boat crew, moving needed equipment on barges in local harbors or on longer open ocean voyages. Watercraft operators are part of a piloting team using electronic positioning systems, handheld navigation tools, and traditional watch standing procedures aboard many of the Army's watercraft. Watercraft Operators are primarily responsible for navigation, cargo operations and supervising other Soldiers on Army watercraft. Some of your duties as a Watercraft Operator may include:

* Navigating watercraft
* Consulting maps, charts, weather reports and navigation equipment
* Operating amphibious craft during troop landings
* Docking and undocking vessels
* Sending and receiving messages with radios, beacons and signal flags
* Operating and maintaining lifeboats and vessel fire equipment
* Securing all types of cargo using capstans, winches, hoists and davits
* Reporting navigational hazards to the vessel master while underway
* Identifying and interpreting single-letter international code signal flags
* Maintaining boats and deck equipment
* Dropping and weighing anchors
* Keeping ship logs'

Hope this helps.Yes it helped!But I don't see any SWCC type of operators :in which I was referring to.I've seen them on the :Coronado base
before.

[joshdupre]

Yes it helped!But I don't see any SWCC type of operators :in which I was referring to.I've seen them on the :Coronado base
before.

What do you mean you don't see any SWCC type of operators? If you are looking to see where that you can be stationed as a SWCC operator then click on the Learning tab at the top of the page then click locator and scroll down it will give you the break down.

[palmach]

What do you mean you don't see any SWCC type of operators? If you are looking to see where that you can be stationed as a SWCC operator then click on the Learning tab at the top of the page then click locator and scroll down it will give you the break down.I'm referring to ARMY guys,from my original post.

[swcc-wife]

I'm referring to ARMY guys,from my original post.

You may need to call an Army detailer about that. As far as what I've researched, the Army doesn't have boat operators that are similar to what SWCC does. SWCC is a part of NSW, so will will not find anything near SWCC in the traditional Army community, and Army SpecOps doesn't seem to have anything either.
Have you considered the possibility that what you saw on the Coronado base were in fact SWCC? SBT-12 (a SWCC command) IS in Coronado. How are you sure they were Army?

[NavyMA1221]

I think you may be a bit confused as to who you actually saw...

[palmach]

I think you may be a bit confused as to who you actually saw...I even asked who they were and they were ARMY
operators etc. SF does riverine work and Oceanwork also,therefore they need
boat guys also,right?

[swcc-wife]

I even asked who they were and they were ARMY
operators etc. SF does riverine work and Oceanwork also,therefore they need
boat guys also,right?

The Army SF does NOT utilize riverine nor coastal warfare. The Army does have conventional units that operate on water, but they do not do the same things nor have the same capabilities as SWCC. In fact, SWCC has the only unconventional warfare riverine unit in the entire military.

[Kinnikinik]

The Army actually has more boats than the Navy. The rub is, most of them are logistics boats. During Vietnam, the Army did have a mobile riverine force that did much the same job as the river rats did. Currently, I know of no specialty MOS in the Army that does the same sorts of things SWCC does. I am sure SOF and Rangers get some training in boats, but not specifically for the types of missions SWCC does. And almost NOBODY else pushes boats out of the back of airlplanes.

K