what to eat...

[itsallorganek]

I guess this question could go under both this topic or the SOF fitness topic. I am 6'5 about 260 and am trying to lose weight. Ideally I would like to drop to about 230-240. I am well built, not fat but I do have a little bit of a gut im working to get rid of. I was a big weightlifter all through high school and my first year of college ( i played football) but now im starting to run and swim more and work on endurance. I want to lose weight but dont want to lose ALOT of muscle. I usually eat high protein foods, but I feel I wont lose weight if I keep m intake in protein high, so I guess what im looking for is a happy median, foods I can eat to lose weight but keep my build. Thanks!!

[snow85]

i'd start with a carrot stick in one hand, and the site search feature in the other.

read up, then come back. you've got a lot of work to do. better make that two carrots.

[kklingman]

don't concern yourself with your diet so much. as long as you don't eat ****. just ramp up your cardio.

[itsallorganek]

thanks snow, but im not very interested in smart *** comments. I looked through the other threads and didnt really find an answer I was looking for. People can give me advice if they want, if they think my question is a waste of time, they dont even have to look at it. I just wanted some advice from people on here...plus im new to the site so I really dont know my way around it.

[amb51385]

first step - tell snow to shove off.

then...

drink water (lots of it) - your body won't metabolize fat nearly as efficiently if it is trying to store water - and most people (working out) are in a perpetual state of dehydration. If your pee isn't clear - you aren't drinking enough - and if you are trying to lose weight - drink some extra.

this sucks for the first 2-3 days as you have to visit the head a few more times than usuall - after about a week things return to normal and if you are eating fewer calories than you are burning (i.e. run and swim a lot - while eating normally), you will start losing fat weight.

other than that - try to avoid eating crap (high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogenated vegi oils, etc). If you have to think about it - have a glass of water instead :p

[silver2080]

if your not eating every couple hours i would suggest splitting your meals up if trying to lose fat keep calories from fat around 10-20%...you obviously need to burn more calories then you take in...try getting your carbs from good carb sources like whole grains, oats, fruits and whole grain pastas and breads throughout the day and dont eat as many carbs right before sleep since they will be stored as fat since you are not as active when sleeping

[itsallorganek]

now thats what im talkin about!! haha thanks for the advice. I have been trying to drink a ton of water every day. I actually lost 8 lbs in a few days I think just from drinking more water. Its been a really hard adjustment from trying to gain weight for football to trying to lose weight for SEALs. Im only 20 and in college so I have plenty time to get myself in shape. A lot of people see 260 and assume that I am one of those big overweight lineman and kind of brush my questions off because they think I am obese or something haha. Thats not the case...yes I am large, and much larger then I should be for BUD/s but im not out of shape. So Snow im sorry if I kinda snapped at your respnse, im just so used to people seeing my weight and assuming I cant run a lap around a track haha. Thanks again!! any more advice?

[silver2080]

sorry to put this in but you dont want to drop too much weight all at once...congrats on 8 lbs tho...and dont weigh in day to day ur body does something with liquids and somedays you will be heavier just because of excess water and the next youll be alot lighter

[snow85]

thanks snow, but im not very interested in smart *** comments. I looked through the other threads and didnt really find an answer I was looking for. People can give me advice if they want, if they think my question is a waste of time, they dont even have to look at it. I just wanted some advice from people on here...plus im new to the site so I really dont know my way around it.

then you must not have looked very hard, because it's been addressed.

impressive that you're not interested in doing the work to use the search feature, but you somehow will become super motivated enough to lose the gut.

there's a white box in the upper r. corner. it says "search". you can fill in whatever terminology you want, including "lose weight."

[itsallorganek]

Im not really concerned with a specific amount of weight. I just want to lean down but still keep my build. I already have strength so now im looking for the right blend of strength and endurance. Plus carrying around 260 all day cant be good for the joints haha im not hitting people anymore so there is no sense in packing on muscle anymore.

once again snow im sorry if i wasted your time, you didnt have to respond to my question...there are plenty of other people on here who are taking their time to give me advice which i appreciate. Thats what these posts are for, at least I thought they were.

[Illmaxic]

thanks snow, but im not very interested in smart *** comments....plus im new to the site so I really dont know my way around it.

First of all, Snow knows what she is talking about, a carrot wouldn't be a bad idea for you... And since you are new to the site, I couldn't think of a better way to become more acquainted with it than using the SEARCH FEATURE!!!! Now be a good widdle wabbit and use the search... and eat some carrots, snow is right, carrots are good for you, and healthy! you are the one who asked for advice...

[GeoDeal]

Man if you can't take light jabbing how are your going to handle BUD/S? You two should become friends. Really.

[itsallorganek]

I understand what your sayin. like I said before, sometimes people tend to just see 260 and assume im an obese 260, which like I said is not the case. So I have had alot of people be ****s to me and not answer questions and say things like "stop eating doughnuts before you worry about BUD/s" and stuff of that nature. its not that i cant take it, its just that I have seen it so much it gets old. Not saying snow was going that route with me, but I guess I just misconstruded (sp?) her comment. Everyone on here seems very helpful, and yes its obvious to me she knows what she is talking about from the other posts I have seen, and any and every bit of advice she has is welcome. honestly I just wanted to make a post haha and see what you guys thought. thanks

[bradya]

along with drinking lots of water, make sure you are eating real clean, mostly things like chicken(no skin), fish, lowfat yogurt is great for a snack. Dairy helps to keep you lean. Also instead of eating three meals a day try to eat 5-6 small meals. that way your metabolism never really turns off, the constant intake of food keeps it reved up. Also if you are ever getting some sort of craving for food when its not time to eat yet, chug a couple of glasses of water, it will fill you right up and you won't be hungry anymore. Often times when we think we are hungry we are actually dehydrated and thirsty. Good luck, im actually the exact opposite of you, im 5'8 135 and trying to bulk up.

[Illmaxic]

i say just run your balls off, eat healthy, no greasy fatty foods, and keep on doing workouts, maybe the BUD/S warning order perhaps??? And stick with it, the weight will drop, you get in what you put out.. good luck to ya mate

[snow85]

first of all, my advice is to use the search feature.

my opinion is that at 6'5", 260, you're not as big as you think you are, and you probably won't be able to maintain 230. i don't know where you're getting info on where you "should" be for BUD/S.

your pee shouldn't be clear. it should be light yellow.

i'd cut back on high protein if it's animal protein (meat) and move toward nuts, peanut butter, etc.

work out. drink water. include some weight training days that are light weight, high reps.

[itsallorganek]

Im not body builder huge by any means...but im a good size, definitly bigger then a number of the guys I know who are training for BUD/s. not trying to toot my own horn but my bench press was 345 at my senior combine ( which i completely understand that bench press has no merit when speaking of BUD/s) but I just wanted to throw it out there. I also weighed about 280 when I put up those numbers but thats not the point. what do you mean by I wont be able to maintain 230?

[silver2080]

your pee shouldn't be clear. it should be light yellow.



i always thought it was supposed to be clear...would you mind summing up why it should be light yellow?

[lisalynne10]

i always thought it was supposed to be clear...would you mind summing up why it should be light yellow?

Urine color can range from clear to dark orange (concentrated urine). If urine is clear that is one of a couple things. Primarily reason one is that one has consumed too many fluids, the other a more serious tone such as acute viral hepatits or cirrhosis. Urine is the result of wastes and excess water that has been filtered by the kidneys. Color can also be affected by medications, vitamins, blood in the urine, laxatives, eating beets, berries, food dyes, etc. The color (aside from meds, foods, etc.) comes from urochrome, which is a pigment from blood.

If urine is a dark orange (concentrated) then that's usually an indication that one is dehydrated...push more water. If clear, then the urine is dilute. You really do want to see a little color!!

[silver2080]

thankyou for clearing that up

[itsallorganek]

I was always told all through school that clear was good...i am curious to know also.

and as far as being told where i "should be" for BUD/s...I was told that its not good to be extremely heavy and muscular during training, to wait until you get to the teams to really bulk up if you want. Im more concerned about carrying that kind of weight on my frame for six months, and it hurting my joints (knees, hips, ankles etc.) be a taller guy who had a huge growth spurt, I have always had pains in my knees. I just want to slim down, really work on my core, speed, and agility and take some stress of my body. It was fun being big in school, but it just doesnt seem practical anymore.

[lisalynne10]

I was always told all through school that clear was good...i am curious to know also.



If urine is continually clear throughout waking hours you could potentially be harming yourself of necessary minerals, etc. If always clear sometimes that is an indication of diabetes insipidus.

[amb51385]

throwing a little common sense on the clear urine comment.... it's a goal - if you are working out hard 3-5 hours a day maintaining clear urine is almost impossible - but it's something to shoot for.

if you can work out for 8 hours without drinking water and you pee clear - you have issues, I doubt this is the case.

[snow85]

throwing a little common sense on the clear urine comment.... it's a goal - if you are working out hard 3-5 hours a day maintaining clear urine is almost impossible - but it's something to shoot for.


what are you talking about?

this makes no sense. if you're working out hard 3-10 hours a day and you're hydrating properly, you should have practically clear urine.

[itsallorganek]

ok so i work out 5-6 times a week and drink mostly water....should it be clear or light yellow? its usually clear because I drink a ton of water when I work out, as most people do. im not into discussing my urine normally haha but I dont want to be drinking too much water, if there is such a thing.;

[lisalynne10]

ok so i work out 5-6 times a week and drink mostly water....should it be clear or light yellow? its usually clear because I drink a ton of water when I work out, as most people do. im not into discussing my urine normally haha but I dont want to be drinking too much water, if there is such a thing.;

There is a thing of drinking too much water, it's called hyponatremia. It's when the sodium concentration falls below the norm in plasma. Symptoms can include nausea, vomiting, headaches, and in the worst of cases confusion, coma and even death. This has happened in some people, the most recent case a contest in California where a radio station gave away some prize to the contestant who drank the most water in a the least amount of time. A woman drank some crazy amount of water, like 2 gallons, in a short period of time. Left, went home, said she didn't feel good, lapsed into a coma and died shortly after.

[itsallorganek]

oh yeah i heard about that..well im certainly not drinking that much water

[snow85]

oh stop it.

hyponatremia (do a search on this site, it's recently been discussed), is not as common as the recent press would have you believe. that example, on this thread, is absurd.

1. no athletic activity involved, where one would actually sweat fluid out,
2. no indication of her current hydration habits,
3. pretty much makes it irrelevant to this thread.

itsallorganek-- yes, clear or light yellow, depending on how much you drink when you're working out. if you work out for an hour and drink before, but not during, you'll probably have light yellow pee. but, if you workout for two hours and hydrate once, your urine might be darker in color due to the protein byproducts that are produced and excreted during intense exercise.

and really-- if you want to know about hyponatremia, use the search feature. we've discussed it recently, before lisa came back.

[lisalynne10]

Oh, I did forget about the marathoner in New York who died of such just a few short years ago. And the woman in Oregon who was doing a race in high heat (for Oregon) that collapsed and was diagnosed with a case of such, she did survive. Dare I go on more? It DOES happen.

I forgot....I must not be credentialed to say such a thing!

[snow85]

actually, yes. i would like to see your statistics for the number of people out of the ENTIRE ATHLETIC POPULATION, including high school kids, people in the military, etc. that actually die from hyponatremia, ms. nurse.

have at it. good luck with the report. you'll probably need to use excel.

[itsallorganek]

i had not even heard of that condition before this thread...interesting fact though.

Snow-

are you a doctoe or a nurse? you seem to know a ton about medical conditions and what not..

[snow85]

nope.


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[kali]

There is a thing of drinking too much water, it's called hyponatremia. It's when the sodium concentration falls below the norm in plasma. Symptoms can include nausea, vomiting, headaches, and in the worst of cases confusion, coma and even death. This has happened in some people, the most recent case a contest in California where a radio station gave away some prize to the contestant who drank the most water in a the least amount of time. A woman drank some crazy amount of water, like 2 gallons, in a short period of time. Left, went home, said she didn't feel good, lapsed into a coma and died shortly after.

Oh god, I must be insane for posting this here.....

Lisa, you're a critical care RN, right? I know you meant to say that consuming massive quantities of H2O is called "water intoxication", right? Hyponatremia being symptomatic of intoxication by water.

Anyways....H2O intoxication is harder to accomplish than dehydration with heat exhaustion and/or heat stroke resultant to excessive rapid loss of bodily fluids.

Hydration is a good topic for all you athletes, tho.
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