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r3mz
08-27-2006, 12:38 PM
7 minute miles are done running at a high pace speed but then what if you need to do 6 miles in that time how do you keep the speed at a 7 minute or less mile pace because that is pretty fast and long

6 miles in 40 minutes

hard or can you guys run this with no problem?

because it seems like ill make it to maybe a mile and a half more at that sprinting speed and die. tips,storys, anything

anon_wannabe
08-28-2006, 12:40 AM
After running a little over 3 months I'm down to about 33:30 minutes to complete a 5 mile run. Just keep working on it and eventually you'll have no problem keeping a 7 minute mile pace (or better).


A 7 minute mile is like an 8 MPH average... that shouldn't be a sprinting speed.

mdg39518
08-28-2006, 07:04 AM
You can always pace yourself at the begining then start to increase your speed at the middle or something like that.

craaazyhorn01
08-28-2006, 09:31 PM
You could give interval training a shot to work on your run times. Just keep increasing the length of your sprints and after some training (consistent) you will be sprinting almost your entire run or at least have up your pace for your entire run. Just a suggestion that has really worked for me, 4 what my 2 cents are worth ;)

r3mz
08-29-2006, 09:36 PM
A 7 minute mile is like an 8 MPH average... that shouldn't be a sprinting speed.


i think its an 8.5 or 9 on a tred and thats pretty close to sprinting

but yea imma see if i can speed up my miles little by little

crovino11
08-30-2006, 03:09 PM
8 MPH is a 7.5 minute mile pace. An all out sprint for me is close to 15 MPH according to a radar gun.

anon_wannabe
08-30-2006, 09:36 PM
A sprint should be around twice that...

Are we talking about the same thing? When I say sprint I mean running like all hell is after you, conserving absolutely no energy. I can only keep this pace for about 45 seconds.

r3mz
09-03-2006, 10:54 AM
When I say sprint I mean running like all hell is after you, conserving absolutely no energy. I can only keep this pace for about 45 seconds.


ok ok its on a fast running speed but i cant keep it at a 9.0 speed because 8.5 isnt enough to make on time a 9 would be perfect and i think i would be able to keep that speed up for 7 miles

craaazyhorn01
09-04-2006, 08:40 PM
ok ok its on a fast running speed but i cant keep it at a 9.0 speed because 8.5 isnt enough to make on time a 9 would be perfect and i think i would be able to keep that speed up for 7 miles


Ok just a thought here but i'm assuming since you're in a navy SEAL forum your ultimate goal would be to join the teams right (as is my goal!!)??
Although i agree treadmill has it's place in training i suppose, I would think (I'm no expert) but you should really do MOST of your running outside. There's a number of reason you should maybe consider for one just so you get used to pacing yourself and not letting a machine set the pace for you, two, you get used to running in different climates that you'll be seeing at BUDs (ie:rain, sleet, sun, heat, and especially wind) and operations if you make it through, three, same for the terrain (ie: hills up and down, rocks, sand) things like that. Like i said though im not a exprt or a SEAL just someone training to give it MY best shot trying to offer up some advice ;) G-luck

mdg39518
09-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Treadmill can help you with getting form down, and it will give you a idea of how fast your running, and how to pace yourself. Then you can take what you learned and try it out on a run.

craaazyhorn01
09-05-2006, 05:24 PM
I dont want you to misunderstand what i was triyng to say.
I agree treadmill work is fine and can be useful ( I do a ton of treadmill running myself) esp. at times when your stuck on a ship out to sea for months at a time. Although...it is by NO means the same as running outside. Outside you have distractions and NATURAL elements to deal with you probably dont have unless your drag your treadmil outside or something like that ( little humor) joke. This all just my opinion but i have been a athelete and running for a little while and i'd say running is probably my best attribute. I'm just trying to lend a hand. I know if i dont get outside and do streetwork (running) for a while and get to "adapted" to treadmil running and letting the machine set the pace for my legs then it throws my "real times" off when i hit the track or road so just a thought i hope it's useful. Or maybe at least make sure you run once a week outside just to keep the "real" feel of the road for example do all your pacing and form running for the week on a treadmill and then come (sunday) if that's your day (usually one a week) that is your long run day do that one outside and see if you have made progress from your last outside run. It's worked for me in the past and present ;) I never stop trying to increase my times even though my times for running (swimming is different story) are are well below say the last phase of BUD/S already.

Another thing that may help is to have a coach analyze your form or even if just an experienced runner that you know (preferably sucessful) because they know usually and have analyzed running forms to the max along with shoes, paces, diets etc.....they can be very helpful people.
**one more thing*** A watch can help you with you pace difficulties if you'd like to practice your pacing outdoors. (hahaha) but im serious really in life and in MOST training no matter what your training for there is never a substitue for the REAL thing which in this case is just going outside and running. I want to re-emphasize i am NOT a expert just trying to help with my 2cents. Hope this helps some,
B

mdg39518
09-06-2006, 04:11 PM
I agree I wouldn't do a running workout on a teadmill unless you have to, out door runs are alot better.

r3mz
09-07-2006, 05:54 PM
I dont want you to misunderstand what i was triyng to say.
I agree treadmill work is fine and can be useful ( I do a ton of treadmill running myself) esp. at times when your stuck on a ship out to sea for months at a time. Although...it is by NO means the same as running outside. Outside you have distractions and NATURAL elements to deal with you probably dont have unless your drag your treadmil outside or something like that ( little humor) joke. This all just my opinion but i have been a athelete and running for a little while and i'd say running is probably my best attribute. I'm just trying to lend a hand. I know if i dont get outside and do streetwork (running) for a while and get to "adapted" to treadmil running and letting the machine set the pace for my legs then it throws my "real times" off when i hit the track or road so just a thought i hope it's useful. Or maybe at least make sure you run once a week outside just to keep the "real" feel of the road for example do all your pacing and form running for the week on a treadmill and then come (sunday) if that's your day (usually one a week) that is your long run day do that one outside and see if you have made progress from your last outside run. It's worked for me in the past and present ;) I never stop trying to increase my times even though my times for running (swimming is different story) are are well below say the last phase of BUD/S already.

Another thing that may help is to have a coach analyze your form or even if just an experienced runner that you know (preferably sucessful) because they know usually and have analyzed running forms to the max along with shoes, paces, diets etc.....they can be very helpful people.
**one more thing*** A watch can help you with you pace difficulties if you'd like to practice your pacing outdoors. (hahaha) but im serious really in life and in MOST training no matter what your training for there is never a substitue for the REAL thing which in this case is just going outside and running. I want to re-emphasize i am NOT a expert just trying to help with my 2cents. Hope this helps some,
B

I maybe should of mentioned this but i dident think it was gonna be brought up . I mostly do run outdoors or the track way more then the treadmill(because its boring) I was just using the treadmill example to find out how fast I would really need to go to keep under 7 minutes. but i do alot of training outdoors such as sprints, uphill and long runs . I got the new the nike+ shoes and I use the shoes to time and check my pace these shoes are GREAT! :) . since I live in las vegas its hard to run during the day (which is the time I workout and its always over 100 degrees) so if I dont wake up early to run or run at night I hit the treadmill and keep it a fast pace as long possible but I cant make it past 4 miles without getting shinsplints or just pain haha