Having A.D.D

[M4A1Carbine]

So Im pretty sure I've had A.D.D. all of my life. For instance, when I play teamsports under pressure I can't focus and just completely lose it. When I'm reading a book I'm just reading words and can't really focus on whats happening. When I take tests I can't remember what to do because my mind suddenly becomes a clutter of unorganized information.

The problem is, my parents have always wanted to deny me having A.D.D., and now that I want to be a SEAL I would rather not be prescribed to A.D.D. medication, for clearance purposes. I probably wouldn't be asking you what the Navy thinks of A.D.D. people, but I want to go to college and I can't focus for the SAT. I need help so I can get a high score. If I start taking this medication do you think I will be less applicable for becoming a BUD/s candidate?

I'm too lazy to use the search button.

[IT3IHateSand]

So Im pretty sure I've had A.D.D. all of my life. For instance, when I play teamsports under pressure I can't focus and just completely lose it. When I'm reading a book I'm just reading words and can't really focus on whats happening. When I take tests I can't remember what to do because my mind suddenly becomes a clutter of unorganized information.


Oh no man, don't worry about that, you don't have ADD your just plain dumb, so you don't got nothin to worry about! Haha, no but for real, if you haven't needed the medication before and you've made it his far, you might as well suck it up and not use it because if you do the navy is going to look down on it then your going to require wavers and then things get complicated. You just want to go in cut and dry no ifs ands or buts about getting in and getting a spot in BUD/s, that's my personal opinion on the situation.

[psm5]

The SAT sucks for everyone. When I was a senior in high school I was having trouble with the analogies in the vocab portion of the test. I ended up taking some classes on the weekends to help me with the vocab and my score went up from 1120 to 1300. So if you are serious about taking the SAT i would suggest taking some SAT prep classes. They are very boring but they really help. Good Luck bro.

[A62]

but who says you have to tell the Navy you took ADD meds for a couple of months to prep for the SATs? Just take them, get your test score, and then move on...


Obviously you have never been vetted for a security clearance.

A62 out

[khanuwil]

but who says you have to tell the Navy you took ADD meds for a couple of months to prep for the SATs? Just take them, get your test score, and then move on...


Obviously you have never been vetted for a security clearance.

A62 out


You're right, I have not. I don't know what I'm talking about here... Sorry.

[IT3IHateSand]

Not to be too slippery about it, but who says you have to tell the Navy you took ADD meds for a couple of months to prep for the SATs? Just take them, get your test score, and then move on...


I didn't even have to look at your profile to tell your not in the miltary.

[snow85]

Obviously you have never been vetted for a security clearance.


agreed. (what is this world coming to?)

M4--

dude, if you have a.d.d. to the point where you can't focus and can't concentrate, i really don't want you running around near me with a hot weapon of ANY kind. i don't want to go on a mission with you, and i most certainly don't want to put you in charge of other people. can you see why?

you'd be amazed at what a minor amount of medication can do. it actually brought a the grades of a friend of mine up from barely surviving to a 4.0. amazing what it can do if you really DO have a.d.d. on the other hand, i understand your concern.

i don't know what the policy is, but i know where to find it. i'll help you later on tonight.

[cfog3291]

I was kind of thinking the same thing, if you lose it in pressure situations, and you can't focus, the job is not for you. I think you are putting you, and your teamates life at risk.
I really don't think you can just let this slip, this can cost lives when the time counts.

In my opinion I would find the policy, and take some meds, I would definatley say you are not fit for combat based on what you said.

[alphacatone]

if you lose it in pressure situations, and you can't focus, the job is not for you. I think you are putting you, and your teamates life at risk.


I have to agree. My sister has ADD (at 50+ years of age), and I won't get within 70 car lengths of her when she's driving. And that's when she is in FRONT of me!

ADD is not a safe thing to subject your teammates to. It is one thing to risk your own life, but you have no right to risk theirs.

[M4A1Carbine]

I have to agree. My sister has ADD (at 50+ years of age), and I won't get within 70 car lengths of her when she's driving. And that's when she is in FRONT of me!

ADD is not a safe thing to subject your teammates to. It is one thing to risk your own life, but you have no right to risk theirs.


Alright apparently the first post I put up wasn't approved. Hopefully this one is. I don't care what you think. A.D.D. arrives on many different levels. I do not have severe A.D.D. and I think thats what you are assuming. On the sports thing I may have over exagerated a little bit. I've always been a competitive team player. I think I was trying to express myslef a little TOO VIVIDLY for people to understand. Apparently it worked.... I also believe childhood A.D.D. eventually goes away. I don't have severe A.D.D., If anything its VERY mild. On other thing, I dont appreciate you telling me not to be Spec. Ops. (Navy SEALs), because its been a dream for a very long time. I will NEVER EVER EVER tell someone there dream is unattainable, and I NEVER have. This forum is meant to support people, and what your saying is very harsh to me.

[M4A1Carbine]

I know this is a double post but....



So Im pretty sure I've had A.D.D. all of my life. For instance, when I play teamsports under pressure I can't focus and just completely lose it. When I'm reading a book I'm just reading words and can't really focus on whats happening. When I take tests I can't remember what to do because my mind suddenly becomes a clutter of unorganized information


I really think I over exxagerated on this. I can usually read books just fine. There are times though when I have other things on my mind, and I cant focus. Usually when I play sports I can perform fine..Its just sometimes under EXTREME pressure I have a hard time making the right call. Also the teamsports I played I didnt have a whole lot of experience with so it makes good sense. Also, if I'm prepared for a test I usually do fine on it. It seems to be I cant focus when I come in unprepared, I guess kind of cramming.

Maybe I am just normal and HAVE NO A.D.D. I just wanted to see if maybe I do. Maybe I shouldnt check it out if its going to affect Navy. I just wanted to see what my options are, being open minded here.

I also believe most people have signs of A.D.D. and people shouldnt take medication. A.D.D. can be dealt with without medication if it isn't too severe, which it isn't. I guess this idea just sort of popped into my mind because I really really really want to do good on my SAT.

I've made it K-12 making A's and B's my whole life. I've excelled at everything Ive REALLY been interested in. So I think maybe I took it a little too far.

Again after re-evaluating what I wrote I think I over exagerated WAY too much.

[cadre2]

Alright apparently the first post I put up wasn't approved.


If you want to know when your posts aren't approved, you have to add cadre2@navyseals.com to your "acceptable" list on your spam filter. I did send you an email about it.

Cadre2, moderator

[A62]

M4

Have you ever been diagnosed with ADD? If not, I would just charlie mike and forget this whole thing. What will be will be and there isn't much anyone can do to change it. I don't think anyone was telling you your dream is unachievable. They were trying to let you know that if you DID have ADD and it was bad enough that you should be thinking of your teamnates, not yourself. BUT, this does not apply as you don't have it and are just a normal forgetful teen. I teach 120 of you a day.LOL OH, BTW, this should be a good lesson about maybe "exagerating" on the Web.

Take care and BOL to you in achieving your dreams.

A62 out

[IT3IHateSand]

M4, I wouldn't use the word ADD again unless a doctor brings it up to YOU, I understand your concern but I mean I'm pretty sure you didn't just develop ADD within the last couple weeks, so I would quit psyching yourself out about this and move on with your school work or whatever else your trying to do. And under EXTREME stress, a lot of people have a hard time thinking, your not the only one.

[SicksCeven]

i have the same problem with books to...but thats when i find the book to be boring. mabe thats the reason for you?

[Synscape]

Its just sometimes under EXTREME pressure I have a hard time making the right call


What, being shot at isn't extreme pressure? Having the lives of your team mates, or an instructor getting down in your face for an hour because you forgot to dot an i isn't extreme pressure? Not saying don't join the SEAL's, just saying try to overcome your weakness and don't turn a blind eye to it, be upfront if you take the medication, because if you arn't, bye bye your chances at the PST for BUD/s.

[M4A1Carbine]

What, being shot at isn't extreme pressure? Having the lives of your team mates, or an instructor getting down in your face for an hour because you forgot to dot an i isn't extreme pressure? Not saying don't join the SEAL's, just saying try to overcome your weakness and don't turn a blind eye to it, be upfront if you take the medication, because if you arn't, bye bye your chances at the PST for BUD/s.
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Well in "The Warrior Elite" the opening paragraph is about the Ops in Grenada. Most people know how the story goes so I'm not going to go into detail. Anyways, in the story, whoever is narrating it, is explaining how under intense combat many people just freeze up. When the SEALs were fighting to get away from the radio tower, the narrator said that without repetitive and consistent training these men would freeze up and not know what to do. Since apparently they had been drilled on how to deal with close quarters combat they were able to make it out alive without any casualties. In the SEALs your learn how to do everything perfectly through repetitive training, which creates muscle memory. So Im pretty sure when a SEAL goes into live combat his first time instincts start kicking in. And those instincts were drilled into them through training. I believe SEALs have good instincts, and making good decisions comes from that. Thats why I don't believe having mild A.D.D. would completely disqualify you from being a part of the Navy.

[psm5]

Hey m4a1carb, I hate to break it to ya but when it comes to the military, or better yet the SEALs, minor details are what keeps alot of men out of BUDs. Now Im not in the military, but my two brothers went to West Point as well as my dad, so I know a little bit. For example, if you have ever been knocked out and had a concussion which lasted longer than 12 seconds and the military finds out about it, you can kiss BUDs goodbye. My cousin wanted to join the Navy and become a SEAL, but when he was talking with a recruiter he found out he wasnt eligible because of a concussion he got while wrestling in college. Just to let you know, my cousin was an All American wrestler and NCAA champ 4 years ago. Little things like being color blind or having asthma can keep you out of special ops. Its just another sorting process that the military has. I would do some research and talk with some recruiters about your problem. If you dont have ADD, thats awesome and keep training like crazy and hit the books to study for the SAT. Best of luck to ya

[snow85]

uh, psm, i hate to break it to you, but your information is incorrect. you should know that, and also know that west point funnels candios into the army, not the navy. to go from west point to BUD/S, you'd have to do an interservice transfer.

there are different grades of concussions... being completely out cold is a grade 3 concussion, and 5 of those will end a football player's career at ANY level. just fyi.

(now once you're a SEAL... things are a little different. things that keep you out in the beginning won't necessarily get you kicked out.)

that recruiter... well, let's just say that joe blow navy recruiter doesn't usually know a whole lot when it comes to nsw candidates.

being color blind is not a little thing. asthma is not a little thing. think about the potential implications of those medical issues.

oh, and your example before, on the other thread-- 28 is the age limit w/o a waiver, which is probably why they said that.

[psm5]

Hey snow, if you new how to read you would notice that I never said my brothers tried to go into the Navy, my cousin did. My brothers who went to west point are in the ARMY....one of my brothers is currently a Ranger and the other is flying Blackhawks....IN THE ARMY!!! Not the Navy. I know its tough to read a whole paragraph, but try reading before you talk smack.

Second...I was trying to make a point that having ADD is a big deal and if he has it bad enough, he will not be allowed to go to BUDs. I do understand that asthma and being color blind are bigger issues. But having a bad case of ADD is just as bad. Not trying to attack M4a1carb at all because he seems really motivated and I hope he doesnt have ADD.

Third...and uh, that recruiter you were trying to make fun of...just happens to be on the selection board and is my cousins brother in law. So i think this guy would know if a concussion gets you in or not

Fourth, if you want to make a big deal on the age issue, go to getfitnow.com and check out what stew smith says about 28 yr olds trying to get an officer slot in BUDs. he says your chances arent that good, and that someone who is younger with the same scores has a better shot.

[mtgman]

Could we please get some attention to detail around here Snow?!

[snow85]

PMS--

ease up, killer. that was no where NEAR the e-smackdown i should now give you. i'll refrain though, 'cause if i don't, the moderators will edit it, and i don't want to waste the funny. let's do this again.

good for your brothers, dude. one of them probably knows a good friend of mine from way, way back. spiffy.

honestly, i wouldn't say that any one of the aforementioned issues is more important than the others.

i wasn't making fun of the recruiter you specifically mentioned. joe blow recruiter = the average ordinary recruter. they don't know what they should. but 12s? i'd love to know where that number came from. seems pretty arbitrary, and i know a lot about concussions and the effects they have on the body. can you get it for me? that'd be great, thanks.

again-- i told you why the 28 came up as an age number.


He told me to make sure I submit my package before I turn 25, because my chances after that start to dwindle. Makes sense.


i also asked why YOU thought that there was a difference. now i see that you've mentioned a return on the years in service. is that what YOU think? do you think that 5 years matters? do you think a 25 year old will choose to stay in longer than a 28 year old?

if i wanted to know what stew smith thought, i'd ask him. i'll bet he'd discuss it with me over cape cods. hm....



mtgman:


Could we please get some attention to detail around here Snow?!


holy cow. this isn't contagious is it? see.... clearly i'm not a nsw candidate. ;)

[psm5]

Snow...as I mentioned in my first post, I am not in the military so you should know that everything I have written is what I have heard from my dad, brothers, and military friends. The 12 seconds thing...I have no idea where that number comes from. That is the number that my cousin was given by the Lt. Commander on the selection board.

[snow85]

psm5-- yes, i understand that. i'm curious as to why your cousin was told that. capiche?

[psm5]

Sounds good. Ill try and find some info on it and then Ill hit you up.

[mtgman]

this isn't contagious is it

No, but the stupidness that flows from some of the posts around here is. Watch yourself, no one is immune!!!

[Synscape]

Well in "The Warrior Elite" the opening paragraph is about the Ops in Grenada. Most people know how the story goes so I'm not going to go into detail. Anyways, in the story, whoever is narrating it, is explaining how under intense combat many people just freeze up. When the SEALs were fighting to get away from the radio tower, the narrator said that without repetitive and consistent training these men would freeze up and not know what to do. Since apparently they had been drilled on how to deal with close quarters combat they were able to make it out alive without any casualties. In the SEALs your learn how to do everything perfectly through repetitive training, which creates muscle memory. So Im pretty sure when a SEAL goes into live combat his first time instincts start kicking in. And those instincts were drilled into them through training. I believe SEALs have good instincts, and making good decisions comes from that. Thats why I don't believe having mild A.D.D. would completely disqualify you from being a part

Well yes, the training will help out immensly, but remember, basketball players, basketball players, boxers, all drill repediatly every day. They go through intense obstacle courses, repetitive moves, gut busting drills, almost everyday, plus they use there skills against an actual oppenent once a week. Yet everytime they go to the field, court, ring, there is always pressure no matter how long they have been doing it. Granted, SEAL training will be far more intensive, but they are only training to get a ball in a hoop, field goal, or K.O. an opponent, with only a few men in their way, SEALs go up against hundreds, if not thousands of enemies, so while their training is the only thing that keeps them alive, cool headed, and percise, everytime they do it, there will alwways be pressure.

As you know im not a SEAL, but i would much rather fight alongside a person with major A.D.D. that takes care of the problem with the pills, than someone with minor A.D.D. that doesn't take care of it. It's not that hard to take a tiny bottle of pills with you; just shove alot of cotton in there so they don't rattle around.

[cfog3291]

My cousin who's at Westpoint right now says that the military has zero tolerance for anyone whose taken ADD pills. But I guess if you've never taken them...

[tiptoe92111]

I have a corpsman on my ship that takes ridalin, so I can guarantee you there isnt a ban on ADD. I have ADD that I was diagnosed when I was 12, but I havent taken any meds since I was 17. So there are 2 examples of people in the Navy, I dont know about anyone else. How bad is yours? I can concentrate but only since I have really practiced keeping in under control.

[snow85]

cfog--

that's not true.

ADD used to be dq'ing, but it's not necessarily s, (in the infantry), anymore. for a waiver, MEPS requires a 3year medical history for anyone who has been diagnosed with ADD. this includes if you were on any drugs like ritalin, adderal, dexadrine, etc, and if there were any additional issues resulting from the medication. if you've been off the meds for a year or more, you may not even need to get a waiver. just depends on the individual situations.

[cfog3291]

And how do you know this?

(Snow, I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, just curious.)

[kmonty33]

M4, I thought I would pipe in. Just so you know, I am a pretty nice guy and am not writing this to be rude, crush your dreams, or start an argument (anyone can be tough behind a keyboard). I also find it vital to include the fact that I am not yet a Navy SEAL. So take this for what it is worth.

SEALs are not selfish. A single SEAL would put the lives of his teammates before that of his own. He would give up his life to save those of his teammates. Aside from the heroics part, lets refocuz on the whole "selfish" thing...

Don't you see it as a bit selfish to lie about having A.D.D. and not taking meds for it and going into battle where attention is absolutely necessary. The slightest slip of attention to anything will result in mission failure, and likely the deaths of you and your teammates. You need complete focus and the ability to be aware at all times while in the field. A.D.D. wont help you there. In this case, you would not be putting the lives of your teammates before yours. It would be a selfish act and a danger to all.

But you said you never went to a doctor about it?? Then how do you know that you even have A.D.D.? Being a psychology minor right now, I have learned that self diagnoses can be just as dangerous as actually ahving the sickness due to the placebo effect. If a person believes that they have all the symptoms of Paranoid Schizophrenia, then they will act the part. Thus the belief of having the disease without professional examination can lead to behaviors resemblant of the disease. See what I am getting at?

So tell your parents to buzz off, go get checked and see what your problem is. If you dont have A.D.D., then I say Hooyah! Go for it. But if you have A.D.D., SPECOPS isnt for you. You can still get a piece of the action, though. I hear that the Marines need a few good men!! But seriously, good luck. And get the facts before you jump to conclusions...

[crod2487]

M4, I thought I would pipe in. Just so you know, I am a pretty nice guy and am not writing this to be rude, crush your dreams, or start an argument (anyone can be tough behind a keyboard). I also find it vital to include the fact that I am not yet a Navy SEAL. So take this for what it is worth.

SEALs are not selfish. A single SEAL would put the lives of his teammates before that of his own. He would give up his life to save those of his teammates. Aside from the heroics part, lets refocuz on the whole "selfish" thing...

Don't you see it as a bit selfish to lie about having A.D.D. and not taking meds for it and going into battle where attention is absolutely necessary. The slightest slip of attention to anything will result in mission failure, and likely the deaths of you and your teammates. You need complete focus and the ability to be aware at all times while in the field. A.D.D. wont help you there. In this case, you would not be putting the lives of your teammates before yours. It would be a selfish act and a danger to all.

But you said you never went to a doctor about it?? Then how do you know that you even have A.D.D.? Being a psychology minor right now, I have learned that self diagnoses can be just as dangerous as actually ahving the sickness due to the placebo effect. If a person believes that they have all the symptoms of Paranoid Schizophrenia, then they will act the part. Thus the belief of having the disease without professional examination can lead to behaviors resemblant of the disease. See what I am getting at?

So tell your parents to buzz off, go get checked and see what your problem is. If you dont have A.D.D., then I say Hooyah! Go for it. But if you have A.D.D., SPECOPS isnt for you. You can still get a piece of the action, though. I hear that the Marines need a few good men!! But seriously, good luck. And get the facts before you jump to conclusions...

what. dude they let you in with ADD. as long as you dont need meds for it. where have you been?

[crod2487]

I have to agree. My sister has ADD (at 50+ years of age), and I won't get within 70 car lengths of her when she's driving. And that's when she is in FRONT of me!

ADD is not a safe thing to subject your teammates to. It is one thing to risk your own life, but you have no right to risk theirs.


Alright apparently the first post I put up wasn't approved. Hopefully this one is. I don't care what you think. A.D.D. arrives on many different levels. I do not have severe A.D.D. and I think thats what you are assuming. On the sports thing I may have over exagerated a little bit. I've always been a competitive team player. I think I was trying to express myslef a little TOO VIVIDLY for people to understand. Apparently it worked.... I also believe childhood A.D.D. eventually goes away. I don't have severe A.D.D., If anything its VERY mild. On other thing, I dont appreciate you telling me not to be Spec. Ops. (Navy SEALs), because its been a dream for a very long time. I will NEVER EVER EVER tell someone there dream is unattainable, and I NEVER have. This forum is meant to support people, and what your saying is very harsh to me.


well then ask yourself these questions. can you focus enough to handle high explosives? i dont mean get nervous...everyone does when their wiring 50 pounds sacks of c4. can you focus enough when someone is firing at you? can you remember to only put the weapon of your muzzle in the direction of something you intend to shoot? do you think youll be able to focus enough to understand platoon tactitcs (not rocket science). myabe you dont even have ADD. maybe your just as dumb as a doorknob (no offense i am too) or you just got a relaxed brain. dont listen to the haters here man. be up front with your recruiter. see a doctor. if you have it then get ot know the severity. (i higly doubt ****ting a brick and ****ing up the SAT is any indication you have bad ADD since its not humanly possible to not space out at some point during a 3 and half hour bubble in test.) point blank if you dont meds then its a non issue and your entitled to a try at the program if you pass the PST and security clearance. good luck.

[kmonty33]

what. dude they let you in with ADD. as long as you dont need meds for it. where have you been?

I did not say that they dont let you in with A.D.D. I simply said that untreated A.D.D. isnt a good idea for a SEAL. It can be very dangerous to that person and their team. Read the entire post and thouroughly examine the context in which it was written.

Or, this may sound crazy, ask the author of the post what they meant as oppossed to writing a harsh response based on your own assumptions and making yourself sound silly...

[crod2487]

I did not say that they dont let you in with A.D.D. I simply said that untreated A.D.D. isnt a good idea for a SEAL. It can be very dangerous to that person and their team. Read the entire post and thouroughly examine the context in which it was written.

Or, this may sound crazy, ask the author of the post what they meant as oppossed to writing a harsh response based on your own assumptions and making yourself sound silly...

ok smartass. who says his ADD (if he evenhas it) needs ot be treated. your just talkin out your ***. lets the Navy decide whats good for the SEALs.

[kmonty33]

ok smartass. who says his ADD (if he evenhas it) needs ot be treated. your just talkin out your ***. lets the Navy decide whats good for the SEALs.

Ok, again, if you actually read my post you wouldnt sound so incoherent right now... I said he should get it checked because he has self diagnosed himself with it. He doesnt know if he has it. Hence the placebo effect...

I wasnt saying that simply having UNTREATED A.D.D. should keep him out of the SEALs. But having UNTREATED A.D.D. so SEVERE that he cant concentrate and perform during a time of pressure and stress would not be a disirable characteristic for a SEAL.

Thats why I told him I wasn't trying to crush his dreams or anything (again at the begining of my post...) and that he should get it checked out. READ THE ENTIRE POST!! And I agree with letting the Navy sort this out. We are not experts, but we give advice when we feel it is tangible. But common sense would tell anyone with a minimal degree of intelligence that a SEAL should be able to concentrate and perform when put into high stress situations and not lose focus; something that tends to coincide with cases of severe A.D.D. Do you agree?

So again, M4 I hope you do well. Get it checked out, talk with a recruiter or SEAL Motivator and keep working for your dream. I was just presenting my opinion, take it for what it is.

Crod, grow up and stop trying to start fights with people on the internet. You are a keyboard warrior and that says alot about your character...

[snow85]

kmonty and crod--

did you two realize that the OP posted this almost a year ago?

he's in school, working on his contract right now. he's good.

crod-- speaking of asking someone w/ADD those question, we ALL need to be asking them of you. i wouldn't put you within 100 yards of an explosive, due to your admitted lack of attention to detail, your tendency to jump the gun, and your inability, at 19, to begin to grow up.

kmonty-- don't worry about crod. no one else on this site does.

[kmonty33]

Haha! Thanks Snow, I really need to start checking the initial post dates on these forums...

Thats awesome for M4!!

[crod2487]

[QUOTE=snow85;164084]

crod-- speaking of asking someone w/ADD those question, we ALL need to be asking them of you. i wouldn't put you within 100 yards of an explosive, due to your admitted lack of attention to detail, your tendency to jump the gun, and your inability, at 19, to begin to grow up.
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o yeah? well i dont give a **** becuase the Navy seems to think differently. hence whi im getting the contract. so while im blowing **** up you can sit back and know that some of your tax dollors are being used to to fund a immature, aggressive, sexist, *******'s jollies.

[Shar36]

Ok, again, if you actually read my post you wouldnt sound so incoherent right now... I said he should get it checked because he has self diagnosed himself with it. He doesnt know if he has it. Hence the placebo effect...

I wasnt saying that simply having UNTREATED A.D.D. should keep him out of the SEALs. But having UNTREATED A.D.D. so SEVERE that he cant concentrate and perform during a time of pressure and stress would not be a disirable characteristic for a SEAL.

Thats why I told him I wasn't trying to crush his dreams or anything (again at the begining of my post...) and that he should get it checked out. READ THE ENTIRE POST!! And I agree with letting the Navy sort this out. We are not experts, but we give advice when we feel it is tangible. But common sense would tell anyone with a minimal degree of intelligence that a SEAL should be able to concentrate and perform when put into high stress situations and not lose focus; something that tends to coincide with cases of severe A.D.D. Do you agree?

So again, M4 I hope you do well. Get it checked out, talk with a recruiter or SEAL Motivator and keep working for your dream. I was just presenting my opinion, take it for what it is.

Crod, grow up and stop trying to start fights with people on the internet. You are a keyboard warrior and that says alot about your character...


Hey K ~ Your post to M4 was perfectly clear and to the point. I wouldn't bother getting into any type of a keyboard contest with Crod...it's similar to beating a dead horse with a stick. Personally, I don't think he'll ever grow up and he's not worth the time quite frankly! FYI he stated in another thread that he was dyslexic and then admitted that he lied and only said that he was. Chances are that he's lying about having A.D.D. as well.

[IT3IHateSand]

haha, who ever started this thing up again didn't realize how old this is, I have post in this from BEFORE I went to BUD/s the first time! haha, M4 has already been to BUD/s (not sure if he made it) so if your talking to him them you might want to save it, haha.

[kmonty33]

Once again Shar, thank you! I am glad to see that some people on this site are actually intelligent and can read and interpret the actual meanings of a response... Yikes!

And IT3, I laughingly admit that I didnt check the date of the initial post. I get so bored sometimes that I hop on this site and start cruising the forums and posting responses of interesting ones without checking the dates. I only pay attention to the topic haha! So I now realize my mistake and will be more careful...

[Shar36]

Once again Shar, thank you! I am glad to see that some people on this site are actually intelligent and can read and interpret the actual meanings of a response... Yikes!

And IT3, I laughingly admit that I didnt check the date of the initial post. I get so bored sometimes that I hop on this site and start cruising the forums and posting responses of interesting ones without checking the dates. I only pay attention to the topic haha! So I now realize my mistake and will be more careful...


K ~ NP, just calling it as it is, it's that old saying, calling a spade a spade. Yes, it is amazing that some people can read yet fail to comprehend what has been written....kind of scary if you think about it!