running (treadmill)--stride/shoes

[GBASeal2338]

I've been doing all my running on a treadmill for the past month 1/2 or so, cuy the weather here is cold as hell. Problem is, after about 2 miles on the treadmill(plus or minus a few) my calves and shins start to burn like a mofo. The burning stays for the rest of the run, never going away and only getting worse. Is it my stride or do I need new shoes? (I've have my shoes for a good while, but they don't look to worn out).

thanks

[snow85]

it's everything.

it's your stride, it's your shoes, it's probably your treadmill, too.

you're developing shin splints.

if you're going to run on a treadmill, make sure you have it serviced annually by the manufacturer. get new shoes. i guarantee you they won't always 'look' work out. you can't see the cusioning break down. keep track of your mileage, and what the shoe manufacturer recommends for your specific shoe. if you don't run very much, or wear them to kick around in, 6 months max is what you should be looking at for shoe replacement.

[GBASeal2338]

ya sounds like i need new shoes. i have the 12 weeks to bud/s book and i try to imitate the stride stew puts forth, but sound like i need new shoes. The treadmill is at a gym so i'm positively sure it's been serviced. Anything else(stride, etc..) that you can give advise on, feel free.

thanks

[Burner1]

I would suggest not running on the treadmill at all. A treadmill is great for finding your pace and refining your movement. But once you've developed your rythum and technique. Move onto different terrain. Get use to feeling and judging the ground under your feet. You won't be running on the same surface all the time and sure won't be running on a treadmill at BUD/S. if that is your goal. As far as the cold. Do you think you won't be cold at BUD/S?

[snow85]

yep, burner's right.

your shoes... the mileage recommendations for shoes vary on the type of running you're doing and the type of shoe. obviously a featherweight shoe will break down much faster than a cushioning shoe. on average, you're looking at about 4 months max for the featherweight running shoe, and about 6 months max for the cushioning shoe. if you run more than once a day or get them wet quite often, you'll need to replace them faster. you can get 600-800 miles out of one shoe and 200 out of another-- just depends on the shoe. that's another thing-- track your mileage. 350-500 is a reasonable expectation, but it really depends on your use and the shoe.

socks are also important, as is proper shoe length and width, and fitting for stability and motion control.

take care of your shoes because they will take care of your feet. don't store them outside, (in cold or direct heat/ sunlight), don't wash them in the washing machine, and don't ever put them in the dryer. if they get wet, put them next to a heat source. my dad used to turn the oven on 'warm', put the rack at the bottom, put our shoes in there and leave the door cracked. then my mom bought us shoe dryers because she didn't want a rubber fire in the oven.

don't use your running shoes for ANYTHING other than running. so yes, if you wear runners to play basketball or to kick around town, get a different pair.

the treadmill at the gym is serviced regularly, but spring loaded treadmills are not replaced as often as they should be.

without knowing anything about your personal stride and arm swing, we can't really tell you much more than get off the treadmill and get new shoes.

[Burner1]

I would say if you are training for BUD/S. Stop worrying about getting the right running shoes and get yourself a couple good pairs of boots and get use to running in them. I would say your going to be doing alot of it, but like I said. Different strokes for different folks. Drop SF an email. I'm sure he wouldn't mind helping answer some of your questions when he gets some time. But, do some research first and try and gather what info. you can. You'll find most of the information you may want has been covered at one time or another. Just keep your Bullsh*t meter handy so you can sift through it and get to the truth..LOL Good luck to you!

[Zer0]

You shouldn't even run on a treadmill, you should be running cross-country style. Run on the beach if you live by it. I read somewhere on this site that your supposed to be able to run better in the cold anyway.

[GBASeal2338]

Hey Guys thanks for all the info. I already got new shoes and they're making a HUGE difference. I HATE running on the treadmill, and I know BUD/s will be VERY cold, but it's 8 degrees outside right now...lol. Once it starts warming up I'll be back outisde ASAP. Thank once again.

[Payne_3000]

treadmills are for girls yo, the only time u should run on a treadmill is when its extremly cold outside or if your over in iraq when there cuttin people heads off, thats the only time.

Payne

[derrekjm]

treadmills are for girls yo, the only time u should run on a treadmill is when its extremly cold outside or if your over in iraq when there cuttin people heads off, thats the only time.

Payne


WHAT! Payne that's a dumb*** statement.

[Payne_3000]

WHAT! Payne that's a dumb*** statement.


haha, no its not!!!

[13aKe12]

I've been running in my old, worn-out, and flat skate shoes. its all i have, but maybe thats why im getting shin splints? yeah, i think i'll go buy some new shoes. it took 2 weeks of not running for my shins to stop hurting, and i dont want it to come back again.

[monsterdan]

From a RUNNER'S magazine I have:

Treadmill running can be especially taxing on the hamstrings and calves because it doesn't provide the degree of stability necessary for these muscles to operate efficiently. The moving deck makes it impossible for you to get the firm foot plant, which helps propel your body forward, that you'd get on a stable surface. This puts more tension on the hamstrings and calves and turns your running motion into more of a march than a glide (lifting legs higher instead of gliding farther). The same thing happens when you run on sand--your hamstrings and calves will tighten and ache after a short distance because of the instability of the sand's surface.

[minitex]

dude ditch the DCs they will mess up your arch if you run in them

[Barratiero]

No its not your shoes or stride. The shin splints is what happens to new runners. You will not get them again after your first year of running. If you have shin splints do interval speedwork workouts so you can recover from the shin pain.

[Barratiero]

ditch the DCs



lol running in skateboarding shoes