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SWCC-03
10-16-2005, 03:50 PM
im kinda new to this forum and i wanted to ask a quiestion.
I have seen plenty books written about SEALs and have been able to optain plenty of nolege threw them,
but i have not yet seen one book writen about navy swcc, and i am verry interestid in such, does anyone have any ideas or has anyone read or herd of a book aobut navy swcc?

thank you.
SWCC-03

Kinnikinik
10-16-2005, 05:02 PM
For the most part there have not been too many books written about the modern SWCC guys. It is a shame because SWCC guys are out there doing an incredible job, doing things that could easily be the subject of a movie. Unfortunately the SWCC guys do not get the media attention that the SEALs get and are often confused with being SEALs. For the most part, modern operations that involve "SEAL boats" or "SEAL operatives operating off of boats" have a very good chance of being SWCC guys. Still, the SEALs do operate their own boats, so be sure to investigate a little bit when you see something in the paper. Don't want to take anything away from those guys when they are there doing the job.

I did a quick check on Amazon.com and I couldn't find anything to do with modern SWCC guys. That is to be expected, considering alot of these guys are still working in the community and have little time to write books. If you do a search look for other names that SWCC guys have been called in the past

River Rats
Brown Water Navy
PT Boats
Swift Boats

You could even go back and think about the gentlemen who ferried George Washington accross the Delaware as the first Small Boat Detatchment (Some may say its a stretch and PT boats were the first true group)

Here are a few books I found:

Brown Water Navy: U.S. Naval Riverine Operations Vietnam
by Ronald L. McAbee

U.S. Small Combatants, Including Pt-Boats, Subchasers, and the Brown-Water Navy: An Illustrated Design History
by Norman Friedman

The Vietnam Brown Water Navy: Riverine & Coastal Warfare 1965-69
by Gordon L. Rottman

Brown Water Warfare: The U.S. Navy in Riverine Warfare and the Emergence of a Tactical Doctrine, 1775-1970 (New Perspectives on Maritime History and Nautical Archaeology)
by R. Blake Dunnavent

At Close Quarters: PT Boats in the United States Navy
by Robert J. Bulkley

PT-BOAT SQUADRONS - US NAVY TORPEDO BOATS
by Angus Konstam

U.S. Navy Special Forces: Special Boat Units (Warfare and Weapons)
by Michael Burgan

Navy searches for ways to lower injuries aboard special ops boats. : An article from: National Defense
by Sandra I. Erwin (About MKV injuries... led to installation of shock mounted seats.)

John F. Kennedy and PT-109
by Richard Tregaskis

"From the Rivers to the Sea, The U.S. Navy in Vietnam",
By Commander Richard L. Schreadley

Thats a short list for you.
Here is some nice reading from the internet:

http://www.specwarnet.com/americas/sbu.htm

Here are a few examples of the media "mixing up" SEALs and SWCC.

These guys actually make the shock decking for the MKV. It is better business to advertise SEAL boats than SWCC boats... not that I can blame them.

http://www.seashocks.com/nStory.php

And of course SOCOM the videogame uses the SOC-R as a SEAL boat

"For the first time in the SOCOM series, land and water vehicles play a central role in the gameplay experience, both on- and off-line. The use of interactive vehicles enable players to control a range of military vehicles including tactical turret-equipped pickups, the SEAL-team configured military M1025 HMMWV and SOC-R Assault Boat. Players will explore three new international Areas of Operation (AO) – Morocco, Poland, and South Asia with multiple save points, allowing for seamless progression through the plotline. A new weapon customization system allows players to use more than 30 different weapons and 20 attachments, resulting in more than 900 different combinations. "

I post this not to complain about lack of recognition, but to demonstrate that you probably already are reading about Combat Crewmen. So keep an eye out in the paper and around the internet. And check out a few of those books. You may be surprised at what you discover.

K

SWCC-03
10-16-2005, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the reply its great to finnaly find answers to the quiestions i have, i want u to know u have already been a great help.

thanks agen!
and yes ill take your advice for sure.

Kinnikinik
10-16-2005, 09:29 PM
One more question... Are you a member of SWCC? If not, I ask you to change your screen name in respect to the brave warriors who have been through the training and have earned the right to use that term. I appreciate your respect for the unit, but just as SEAL should only be used for SEALs, SWCC should only be used for SWCC. Thank you in advance for your prompt response on this.

skimmer
10-16-2005, 09:40 PM
Yes I second that motion....

Please change your call-sign... UNLESS SWCC has been properly earned.....

Thanks 03 for your prompt response on this.

skimmer

SWCC-03
10-17-2005, 01:46 PM
Its not a problem at all guys but how do i go about this? do i need to creat a new acount?
let me know and its dun.

thanks agen.

Kinnikinik
10-17-2005, 04:48 PM
If you can it would be simplest to make a new account. Most likely that is what is going to have to be done anyway. If you are a paying member, contact Mark@navyseals.com to transfer your account info. Thanks for your positive attitude about this. May I suggest HistoryBuff as your next login name?

STRIKER-33
10-17-2005, 07:45 PM
NP guys, thanks for every-THIN

later STRIKER-33

Kinnikinik
10-18-2005, 08:23 PM
Much better. Thanks alot Striker-33.