Steroids

[wannabe_frog_1985]

Sorry if this has been asked before but my search came up empty (atleast in replies). I've thought about jucing to help me get into peak shape and I've recently come into an easy supply. If I do juice should I admit it to my recruiter when he asks about drugs or just let it slide? I don't wanna get busted down the line. Thanks a lot.

[GravyTrain]

Forgive me for butting in on a forum I don't have credibility posting in, but don't take the juice. Ever. You'll gain some quick muscle but it will benefit you nothing in the long term. It won't get you into "peak shape," as the only way to accomplish this is through hard work that you'll be circumventing by using the roids. Even if you do not take a large amount, you run the risk of stunting your growth and encountering liver and kidney problems. Not to mention the development of high blood pressure and shrinkage of the nads.

Grab some protein shakes instead and do it the old fashioned way, you'll feel much better than trying to take an easy way to growth. You'll also thank yourself for it later.

[Burner1]

Sorry if this has been asked before but my search came up empty (atleast in replies). I've thought about jucing to help me get into peak shape and I've recently come into an easy supply. If I do juice should I admit it to my recruiter when he asks about drugs or just let it slide? I don't wanna get busted down the line. Thanks a lot.

Seems to me if your looking for the easy rode. You may want to rethink your current carreer aspirations. If your willing to cut corners and demonstrate a complete lack of discipline, drive and determination to overcome a challenge. Not to mention honor, integrity and respect for others as well as yourself. Why would anyone be foolish enough to trust you with their life! What makes you think you are so special. That you shouldn't have to put out just like every other recruit. Your willing to cheat and rob your team mates for your own selfish gain. Maybe you didn't think of it that way, but from my point of veiw it seems to me that is exactly what you are thinking of doing. Its the little things that add up to the big things. Maybe you would be willing to cut corners with one of your buddies lives as well? Just a little food for thought.

[wannabe_frog_1985]

Yeah I want to be a SEAL but I'm also interested in the Corps. I don't get what your alls problem is, how will juice make one dangerous to everyone else? Cutting corners! Hell no, I'm not trying to cut corners or take the easy route. I see it like this, as a Marine, SEAL, whatever you're going into life and death situations that require extreme amounts of physical fitness. What's wrong with taking something that will make you faster, stronger, and have greater endurance? All I wanted to know was IF I do, should I tell the recruiter or not.

[E8MC]

All I wanted to know was IF I do, should I tell the recruiter or not.Ask him directly -- he'll give you a direct answer, which will be damn close to what we gave you ... you'll still be very dangerous by taking drugs now -- perhaps you need to find a job that will allow for that; SpecOps has no room for you.

[mtgman]

Hell no, I'm not trying to cut corners or take the easy route.

Yes you are.

What's wrong with taking something that will make you faster, stronger, and have greater endurance?

It's only going to make you stronger, faster, and have greater endurance while you are on cycle. After you get off, you're going to lose it again. Why do you think people ABUSE them? It's because they want to stay that big and that strong all the time!
And for God's sakes think of your balls man! What a dumb question!

[wannabe_frog_1985]

mtgman, I'm not interested in advice from a never has been who doesn't know anything about juice. Sorry for asking the question here. Obviously you all know nothing about anabolics.

E8MC, thanks for replying. Forgive me but I still don't know what you mean when you say I'll be dangerous. Please clarify. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else that has served. Thanks.

[Burner1]

Yeah I want to be a SEAL

Even supplements such creatine are banned at BUD/S. What makes you think you can get away with Anabolics. You don't think other recruits haven't tried. If you feel so strongly about it and see nothing wrong with it at least be honest, man up and tell your recruiter. See how far down the line you get. The fact is, if there was nothing wrong with it. You wouldn't be asking whether or not to tell your recruiter!

[mtgman]

By the looks of your weight in your profile, you might want to invest in some fat burners before the anabolics, big boy. And stop calling it juice. You sound like a fag.

[E8MC]

E8MC, thanks for replying. Forgive me but I still don't know what you mean when you say I'll be dangerous. Please clarify. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else that has served.You still don't get the picture, do you?

ANY SpecOps Branch will ABSOLUTELY REFUSE you, because you've done "DRUGS OF ANY KIND"!

SpecOps does NOT; will NOT; and NEVER WILL have "DRUGGIES" in their rank-and-file ... simply put:

You're too dangerous for the safety of all the other Soldiers around you -- that makes you UNDEPENDABLE AND UNRELIABLE.

BTW -- you are far too heavy for SpecOps to remotely consider you anyway -- you HAVE to be in TIP-TOP Physical shape before they'll even consider your application.

[sandfrog]

There are several major countries that, while under a doctors supervision, actively give their specops soldiers steroids. There are obvious benefits, but you won't need or want them for BUD/S, in fact your added weight will be a huge problem for you.

I know several guys that came into the program about your height/weight, they all had to drop a ton of wieght to make the run/swim/O-course times. The last guy I saw was 6'5" 275, cut down to 215 at graduation.

If you want a chance at BUD/S at your size, concentrate on running/cardio more, and leaning out as much as possible. Quite the lifting altogether (I don't normally advocate this, but your weight is an issue) and just do body weight excersices. If you make it through, you can get as big as you want on a Team.

As an active duty SEAL, I can't tell you what to tell and not tell your recruiter...

[wannabe_frog_1985]

FIrst off that profile is four months old, a lot can happen in that time, how about around 50lbs.

Burner1, I know it's illegal in BUD/S, I wouldn't take it there or once I'm in. I'm not that stupid.

mtgman, go shove it. Your ignorance is shown in your post, fat burners don't work. I'm not a fag and I'll call steroids what I want. I don't need advice from a never was. If taken correctly you won't lose your gains after using "juice," abuse comes from the addiction to the results that come from using anabolics

E8MC, sir I respect your service and your experience. However, calling someone who has juiced a druggie is incorrect. Obviously you are thinking of the potheads of the Vietnam and current era.

Steroids make better soldiers, period. Any athlete or soldier who is in tip-top shape will see vast improvements in performance during and post cycles. Besides any of you that drink or smoke are "druggies." Except your drugs do nothing to benefit you, in fact they destroy you.

Sandfrog, thank you very much for your reply. I appreciate the neutral tone. I understand that my size is going to be a serious issue. I am looking at some of the drugs for use in helping my endurance (I am not a natural runner), not to bulk up. Again thanks for the reply.

Thank you all for your replies and thoughts. I suggest many of you study a little bit on subject of anabolics before condemning and personally attacking me.

[mtgman]

Your ignorance is shown in your post, fat burners don't work

I'm not advocating fat burners. I was making a point. But seriously, if you know so much about anabolic steroids, why did you even start this thread.

[E8MC]

E8MC, sir I respect your service and your experience. However, calling someone who has juiced a druggie is incorrect. Obviously you are thinking of the potheads of the Vietnam and current era ... I suggest many of you study a little bit on subject of anabolics before condemning and personally attacking me.You're right -- I was thinking in terms of potheads, and general drugs most young people use today ... I know Sandfrog; and, being that he is a current SEAL, I will go with his opinion of your situation.

Sorry about the assumption -- comes natural after all these years ... best of luck to you!

[sandfrog]

Wannabe,

I know the one you're talking about, it won't help your distance running. It's for sprinters, and it'll hurt you more than help you in this application, and you'll still see muscle mass gains with it. Not what you want.

I'd advise not taking anything except a can of hard and work on your running. If you've lost 50 pounds in the last four months, that's awesome, you should be seeing some amazing improvements in your run times. Keep working on those and lowering your weight to a level where you can run and do cardio comfortably for long periods with out feeling like Chris Farley on crank.

There's a long road ahead of you and there are no secrets for success or shortcuts..... unless you have a cute sister, then I might have some for you.

[wannabe_frog_1985]

mtgman, sorry I jumped on you. I started the thread to learn about , for lack of a better term, the legal side of things. I wasn't asking about any of the chemical stuff. I've been studying that stuff for years.

E8MC, thanks for the good wishes.

Sandfrog, thanks again for the advice. In regard to my sister, SEAL or not ya got to get through me first.

I'm really getting serious about joining the Marines, see if I can actually perform under stress and am physically capable (as I said before I'm much more of a powerlifter build). Maybe SEALs later, maybe not. A former Marine I recently met suggested I just go to a recruiter and show willingness and work with them.

Sorry if I offended any of you. I can get defensive rather easily. The more I think about it, the more I'm probably not gonna mess with anything, atleast for awhile. Besides "natural" has such a good ring to it. Again thanks for all the replies.

[sandfrog]

Wannabe Quote:
"Sandfrog, thanks again for the advice. In regard to my sister, SEAL or not ya got to get through me first."

Haha, fair enough dude. Goodluck with whatever you decide.

[blueskies14k]

Sorry if I offended any of you. I can get defensive rather easily.



No problem; it was just the roids talking, dude.

HAHA

[mtgman]

No worries. It's all in good fun. Good luck.

[ReconTommy]

Steroids make better soldiers, period. Any athlete or soldier who is in tip-top shape will see vast improvements in performance during and post cycles. Besides any of you that drink or smoke are "druggies." Except your drugs do nothing to benefit you, in fact they destroy you.


Kid you are so wrong. Remmember you need to be a team player ..........not a hot dogger. Your mind is what makes or breaks you. If you would like to be an Army, Navy, or Marines of one...go PMC...if they would take you.

Slim down, work on endurance, work on memory. If you Roid, your teamleader will probably kick your *** when you make a mistake when failing to follow orders.

[west43and10]

This topic has been covered on getfitnow.com
Start there, friend

[devildogbrad]

Hey Wannabe- my two cents:
You're already NOT in the proper frame of mind if you're truly considering SF, let alone a military career. Shortcuts, which is what Roids are, could cause you to **** up and get yourself killed, or worse your buddies. Also, you're reputation, especially in SF, starts the day you show up for bootcamp. What happens if you actually make it through BUDS and actually make it through SQT, and are actually assigned to a team? What if Sandfrog is on that team and yout get assigned to his platoon? He'll remember you and do you really believe he'll have good things to say to the other team members or that he'll want to serve with you??? So watch the insults and crap- I know you're just a kid but you don't know who you could be talking to. Another thing, SF guys don't have to take steroids, because they actually WORK for what they want. They'll put in the 2 or 3 hours it takes in the gym or they'll actually run 15 miles- they don't have to cheat. But you need to worry about getting through BootCamp first...and like I said, you're reputation starts early. If you want to go Recon, bug your Senior to be the guide, shoot high Expert, and do a 285 or better PFT and that's just the bare minnimum. Then when you get to SOI they'll come find you. Good luck, Semper Fi

[willbrink]

Would you tell the recruiter you snorted coke also? Unless you have a script from a doc, steroid use is illigal and the armed forces don't generally take well to illigal drug use now do they? That is not to say that some SOF don't use steroids, but some how I don't think they march in the CO's office and tell them they picked us some good D-Bol while snooping around in India or other local.

[SIGdude989]

Would you tell the recruiter you snorted coke also? Unless you have a script from a doc, steroid use is illigal and the armed


How long ago was this? Do you have a record?

[tyfa18esuper]

I hate to be the devils advocate here, Im not goign to take a side to this or anything, Im just stateing the facts, in my BUD/S class it was the steroid/suppliment users who made it because they were the strongest. I hate to admit it like that, but the guys who juced and cheated and cut the corners were the same guys who could best avoid the spotlight, and keep up, make the times they needed too.......

I know Im goign to catch some flack for this, but im just a messenger here, Im just saying what happened in my class.

[mdg39518]

I thought for steroids you will die faster, or something. But I still think it would be a short cut.

[osujp3]

Steroids mess with your hormones, making you a danger to others around you. Ever heard the term "Roid Rage," well it is true. My friend did take it and he said it is by the stupidest thing he has ever done. He did it because he thought he wanted to do a bodybuilding competition and he knew a supplier. Well he did it and his back and his arms were covered in acne, he went into depressions days at a time. It is the easy rode, it doesn't help you in the long run it just makes you more prone to injuries. You would never survive the rigors of BUDs or the Corp if you did cycles of roids right before you left. The Navy SEAL program is a Drug Free program and has a ZERO Tolerence for Drugs. There is no room for Steroids in the SEALs or the Corp for that matter. I am not trying to harass you, but this should not even be a question. Don't do it, don't think about doing it, because it will get you to go nowhere fast. There are supplements that you can take to help you Cytogainer, Musclemilk, Animal Paks, Whey Protein. All of these will help you, Steroids WILL NOT!

[b_nicks]

Obviously you all know nothing about anabolics.



i do know a little about anabolics. first off its stupid for the long run. and no its not going to affect your nads that greatly unless you take more than one cycle(10 weeks) i would say around 3-4 would be sufficient to see actuall shrinkage. and even then, all you have to do is stop and the shrinkage will go away. and anabolic is pill form of steroids, dont take it, its terrible for the liver/kidneys. and the effects are much worse than injection. well injection hurts like a b!ch, and it is alot more effective. yes most steroids, around 98% of them have effects that go away after about 3 months after the cycle. see there is a thing call aromatization. which basically means that the higher the level of aromatization the more water retains, NOT GOOD! so the lower the aromatization the better, less water retention, but the longer it stays in you. the good thing about that is the whole time its in you even after the cycle it still works. so if you were looking to juice, NOT A GOOD IDEA, but lets say you were. i would recomend this roid called equipoise. it is perfect for SEALs that are training. it has low aromatization, low water retention, and it is the safest for you. it rearely causes high blood pressure, and it is not bad on your kidneys or liver. its all around good. it wont bulk you up, it defines your mucsles and makes you strong and fast as sh!t. but your heart will hurt the whole time your on the cycle plus two months after that. but the good thing about equipoise except for the fact that it is probably the safest for you is that the results you get from it are permanent. that right, they STAY, forever. so i recomend that you dont take roids go with protein a good diet and plenty of water. work you a$$ off in the weight room, dont cut a corner man. no training is better than natural training, i know i play football. i know what its like to have people say take roids it makes you better. you know what happens to the people who take them. there bones break after taking a hit, your body can only grow so much, and when you force it grow more than natural, your bones are put under alot of pressure under those weights, therefore, eventually breaking. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ROIDS?