View Full Version : SEALS vs RECON???
nesto2042
01-14-2005, 12:04 PM
First off i would like to thank all the people that have answered my questions thus far....
i have heard alot about the Navy SEALS but i haven't realy ever heard anything about Marine Recons......how different are the two???.....is one training more difficult then the other??.....thanks to all who answer
Swift_Precision
01-14-2005, 02:29 PM
Nesto, before you ask a question like this be sure you do a thorough search on the subject matter. If you do a search in the forums you should be able to find the answer to your question---or at least part of it.
Swift
dartjunky
01-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Different branches of the military can't be compared, Period. All the elite units have difficult training.
Nesto -- there's a reason you, and many millions don't know the answer to that -- think about it.
nesto2042
01-15-2005, 04:09 AM
i have done a thorough search on the matter..otherwise i wouldn't be asking the question........but all the information is kinda "blogged" down....but anyways thanks for your response
nesto2042
01-15-2005, 04:10 AM
think about what?? why i dont know???....i think the reason i dont know is because i haven't looked into it.....hence what i am trying to do now...you know!!!!!!!
wannabeUSNS2004
01-16-2005, 01:44 PM
i have done a thorough search on the matter
think about what?? why i dont know???....i think the reason i dont know is because i haven't looked into it.....hence what i am trying to do now...you know!!!!!!
ok that makes perfect sence to me ( ya right),get off your fat @ss and do a search bro.
nesto2042
01-18-2005, 04:21 AM
what part of my last answer did you not understand.........anyways im done talking with you.....
"argueing over the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win your still **** ing retarded"
blueskies14k
01-18-2005, 04:49 AM
"argueing over the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win your still **** ing retarded"
You have potential; dude. This is good---I wish I thought of it first
wannabeUSNS2004
01-18-2005, 07:07 AM
"argueing over the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win your still **** ing retarded"
Awwww the ***** got mad.
You have potential; dude. This is good---I wish I thought of it first
Gonna get 1 on1 lessons blue?
nesto2042
01-19-2005, 04:25 AM
hey wannabeUSNS.......evey post i have read that you have posted consists of...."dude"..."look around more"...and other BS.......stop being such a **** ...and you should be the last one to tell that guy that he is looking for 1 on 1 lessons....your the one with the "CHIPs" picture as your ID.......LOL
wannabeUSNS2004
01-19-2005, 05:10 AM
hey wannabeUSNS.......evey post i have read that you have posted consists of...."dude"..."look around more"...and other BS.......stop being such a **** ...and you should be the last one to tell that guy that he is looking for 1 on 1 lessons....your the one with the "CHIPs" picture as your ID.......LOL
Got a pro with chips?
wannabeUSNS2004
01-19-2005, 05:14 AM
O wow internet trashing is so overrated its like digging a hole in the sand and haveing sex,you always end up getting crabs....
nesto2042
01-19-2005, 06:03 AM
you win
Liberated99
01-25-2005, 05:27 AM
Nesto, the Navy SEALs and the Marines can't be compared easily because they have an equally hard training course, even though they have different areas to specialize in. Do some research before asking those types of questions.
Soady
02-13-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm not a Navy SEAL, but I've read many books about SEAL/Ranger/Marine Force Recon etc They are all Elite, all are very hard programs, mentally and physically. SEAL training however lasts about a year. Ranger training lasts 62 days and I forget the Marine Recon number. SEAL training is reguarded as the toughest military training known to man. My dad was an Army Airborne Ranger and said that he worked with a few SEALs, said they were crazy SOB's and only 5 of them were in his Airborne School Class.. Plus you have to realize that the SEAL program has a 70% dropout rate and only has 4 classes in one year. Ranger/Marine Recon have twice as many if not more classes than that and more graduates. I recommend the book, "You want me to do what?" by Jeff Kraus and "Suffer in Silence" by David Reid.
jarean
02-16-2005, 11:31 PM
First off I am not a Navy Seal, nor was I a Recon or Force Recon Marine. I did however serve 6yrs in the Marines and may be able to shed a bit of light on this subject. Ranger Training does not seem to compare. I was attending HRST Masters Course with 2 Seals a few regular Recon Marines and A few Force Recon Marines and both seals had the Ranger Tab on there utilities. They joked with the Force Marines (who had also attended) that they had slept through the Ranger Course. Now a bit of bias on my part but never anything less then the truth. The drop rate for Recon and then Force Recon is decieving. First of all I believe their are much more stringent entrance requirements to even get into BRC (Basic Recon Course) The marines also start with a better group of candidates (Lets face it the average marine is usually in better shape then your average sailor.) Now Regular Recon may not compare to the Seal Training but consider this, to enter into Force Recon Training you must serve 3-4 years in a regular recon unit (not an easy try out is it?) I think you can substitute 3-4 yrs in a STA Platoon (Scout Snipers). After that you get the chance to enter the Amphib Course for Force Recon of which 60% Drop, are Dropped or are injured and cannot continue. Remember these aren't regular Navy CPO's or Seaman hell these aren't even your average marine. These are Recon Marines dropping. This should go to show you that this course (althought little known) May be as tough as the trainning Seals Recieve in BUDS. The force Recon Marines and Seals I got to know had great respect for each other and little respect for any other branch of services' Special Forces Units. They all knew each other from various schools and trainning exercises and never did I hear one or the other brag that my training was tougher than yours. This may not answer your question but should shed some light on the subject. Ok now off the record them Seals were tough as HELL!!! But they were a bit out of shape believe it or not. I went out drinking with them at a little bar called jug heads (Jax NC) And they admitted they didn't PT Much after buds. The Force Recon Guys were BEASTS. They PT Like Maniacs and off the record SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONSUME ALCOHOL EVER!!!! THEY RE-DEFINED THE WORD MANIAC!!!! (one other note Regular Recon Indoc is as long as Seal Training and full qualification takes longer)
SGTROCK
02-18-2005, 01:28 AM
First off I am not a Navy Seal, nor was I a Recon or Force Recon Marine. I did however serve 6yrs in the Marines and may be able to shed a bit of light on this subject. Ranger Training does not seem to compare. I was attending HRST Masters Course with 2 Seals a few regular Recon Marines and A few Force Recon Marines and both seals had the Ranger Tab on there utilities. They joked with the Force Marines (who had also attended) that they had slept through the Ranger Course. Now a bit of bias on my part but never anything less then the truth. The drop rate for Recon and then Force Recon is decieving. First of all I believe their are much more stringent entrance requirements to even get into BRC (Basic Recon Course) The marines also start with a better group of candidates (Lets face it the average marine is usually in better shape then your average sailor.) Now Regular Recon may not compare to the Seal Training but consider this, to enter into Force Recon Training you must serve 3-4 years in a regular recon unit (not an easy try out is it?) I think you can substitute 3-4 yrs in a STA Platoon (Scout Snipers). After that you get the chance to enter the Amphib Course for Force Recon of which 60% Drop, are Dropped or are injured and cannot continue. Remember these aren't regular Navy CPO's or Seaman hell these aren't even your average marine. These are Recon Marines dropping. This should go to show you that this course (althought little known) May be as tough as the trainning Seals Recieve in BUDS. The force Recon Marines and Seals I got to know had great respect for each other and little respect for any other branch of services' Special Forces Units. They all knew each other from various schools and trainning exercises and never did I hear one or the other brag that my training was tougher than yours. This may not answer your question but should shed some light on the subject. Ok now off the record them Seals were tough as HELL!!! But they were a bit out of shape believe it or not. I went out drinking with them at a little bar called jug heads (Jax NC) And they admitted they didn't PT Much after buds. The Force Recon Guys were BEASTS. They PT Like Maniacs and off the record SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONSUME ALCOHOL EVER!!!! THEY RE-DEFINED THE WORD MANIAC!!!! (one other note Regular Recon Indoc is as long as Seal Training and full qualification takes longer)
I dont know where you got some of your info but you are wrong on some of it. For instance Indoc is only one day!! I get a kick out of guys including Marines who have never even tried out always know someone who has and/or try to tell the rest of these people here what they think they know when they havent got a clue!! If you havent tried out or werent even in a Recon Bn or Force Co. then keep the comments to yourself for you are giving out wrong or bad info!
Rock
PS for your info I went to ARC as a PFC in 86 and passed! (amphibious recon course)
future_frogmanstudd2
02-18-2005, 05:18 AM
WB the ROCK man...
jarean
02-18-2005, 09:12 PM
SGTROCK Your right. This guy wasn't getting much info at all and yes everything I posted was second hand...Which I did state. (Probably should keep second hand info to myself I've never claimed to be anything I'm not) Why don't you take a minute to enlighten us since you were there. Tell me where I was mistaken. I take no offense and don't usually try to step on toes. I do however think that if your going to be critical then you might as well take a moment to school us. Us regular 11's never claimed to be all that bright anyhow (note my spellin for exampel!)
future_frogmanstudd2
02-19-2005, 06:43 AM
(Probably should keep second hand info to myself I've never claimed to be anything I'm not)
couldnt have said it better myself...
Tell me where I was mistaken
would take too long...
Us regular 11's never claimed to be all that bright anyhow (note my spellin for exampel!)
speak for yourself....
robcc23
02-25-2005, 07:01 PM
I also love how little respect SEALs have for S.F. considering our training takes around 2 years and I would bet he has never even met a real seal, because I can promise you it is nothing but respect going both ways.
87Ranger
02-26-2005, 12:36 AM
Wow! I give a great deal of respect to Seals. I don't know a lot about Recon, but i do some things about the Seals. One of my good friends is in National Guard, and his uncle was a Seal and said that the drill instructers are in your face a lot and throw things at/near you to try to get you to quit. I want to be a Seal someday, and I recommend the new book "The Finishing School" and "The Warrior Elite" by **** Couch to anyone who wants to be a Seal. If you wanna be a Seal, its the best read! The book tells you more than just BUDS but the 2 years of CQT training, the road to the teams, and all the wepons, specs. etc. If your bound for the best training in the world it's Seals. Many former seals from book say that if they had to go through seal training again, that they would enjoy most the seal teams and the friends they made that lasted a lifetime. I, want to be a Seal over a Ranger, but just have to find the stamina in me or seals motto. "I don't quit." After reading the book, Seals get to do Ranger training in city senerios (like BlackHawk Down) and get to train with some Marines. Seals are the fellas smokeing cigars running a mile. In parachute camp, if their told to do 25 pushups, they'll do 50. So if you think you have what it takes to be a seal, and can do over 500 pushups on the second week of Buds, than go for it! In CQT, Seals are expected to work hard and constantly get tested on running and training. You got to be able to lower you time on the mile, and then the 20 mile run with full gear on going through shooting stations, expected to score high, if not over time yo'll be droped. Remember Seal training never stops.
I recommend that if you wanna be a Seal, take a year off after high school getting prepaired. Start running and working out everyday. Find a friend to join up with you. My best friend is going to join up with me. Were going make it I hope. It won't be easy. I suggest running with a few layers of clothes on to simulate running in hot conditions with gear on put on a backpack with 60 pounds of books, or start low and work up. Next, find you limits, start running and see how far you can go, work up. In Seals, they start you off at 5 miles swimming and then work you up! Its now walk in the park. Then, finally before you enlist, do something so physical or strenous that makes you wanna quit. Find a way not too and keep pushing yourself, for you becoming one of the best warriors.
If you wanna do a job for the money, i first of all laugh, there's way better jobs out there. You gotta be committed. You also can't be a one man team. You gotta have patience and disipline and hard work. I want to go in the Seals inorder to find myself and also become a better leader. I want to able to say, Hey! you know what, I got to serve in the Seals in my lifetime and god dam it, I am proud. Most of all, getting the rush after jumping out of a plane at 25,000 feet at night with my friends and then juming in a raft that can reach speeds of 50 knots and meeting at a rendezvous point. Lastly, my final goal would be making Delta Force, you can't go wrong, there the best! 2nd to them would be Air Force Commando guys. These guys train extrememly hard and go out on the field in singles and paires. Talk about tough, wheres their respect!
I've talk to a buddy who is in the active army. He says that SF guys let their hair grow out that way they can blend in to their surroundings. The snipers go though the toughest training. They must shoot 40/40 targets and then be able to shoot bottle caps out of trees a few hundred yards away. If they miss, they have to do it over again and if they fail, their droped. That would be tough!
Lastly, Seals, if they mess up. They have to do pushups with full gear and must put their wepon out in front of them and appoligize for mis-shooting a target, for every target they miss. So, yeah do a lot of pushups and everything above. Best of Luck fellas heading to the Seals, it's An Oppertunity Of A Lifetime!
As for me, I am going up for my black belt next week march 4, 2005. I've done martial arts for 5 years in May and have learned so much that i can't even explain. I've done Sholin Fung Swa taught by United Studios of Self Defence-check it out, worth a lifetime! No joke, there moving all over U.S. Why U.S.S.D, because it is the only martial art where the Abbot of the Sholin Temple came out to California and dedicated a plaque to USSD in the temple. We are the only martial artists in the US allowed in the TEMPLE! So check it out, USSD.COM This isn't no bull **** art. You learn about every martial arts except for one that it in Brazil. It's a type of dancing/gymnastics fighting art. In Brazil, back in the day, Martial Arts were banned, there for they used dancing inorder to hide the art. So to make a long story shot, it's the only one we don't teach. You have to understand, it takes a lot of committment to learn and master any art. Earning your first black-belt is just the beginning. Anyway, check it out. It may be expensive, but if its a true passion, theres way around it. I've learned so much on how to be a better person from it. It's a art, it takes practice, and you can't quit. I've seen a fellow student get a black-belt and then quit for a year, she decided to come back and lost it all. She couldn't even remember a block or strike, all that money wasted. What a shame. So, check it out, it keeps you in shape. Also, they have agressive classes called Agro usually once a week with extra pads and gear. Saftey first, it only takes 15 pounds of pressure delieved by a strike to break a collar bone, or one kick to the knee crippling a person for life! It's a lot of fun and extremely tiring, you talk about endurance after 5 minutes of sparring. (beating eachother up in full gear)
You can even learn techniques online. USSD.COM. Every year we have China Trips where we can go out to the temple and get a demenstration from the monks. When they came to Cali a year ago, they taught students monk techniques! Thats sick! I couldn't afford the trip, but im planning on going this summer. Karate is a great disipline.
So i'm getting ready to go out to San Diego and take my black-belt test. I have to perform 5 pinans, 6 katas (forms) and then another 3 (8pt., 10pt. blocking systems, two man fist set both sides) and then 22 Dms or defence manuvers and 25 kempos all right and left handed infront of 7 masters of 5th degree black belts and higher in the freaking rain, god dam it! The test will last probibly all day! (takes 20 years usally to become master.) Now theres a test! Im going with 2 other black-belts their returing for their 2nd degrees and 2 other like me going up! I'm excited! Black-Belt baby!
They say martial arts training also helps in seals, since they do tatical trainging or training to kill.
Hope you enjoyed my thoughts and story.
Quotes to live by:
"You can only be what you give yourself the power to be"
"Don't seek answers, but understand the questions"
So Seals, you guys get the highest respect out of me. Tell me, hard work pays off right!
And all you piece of **** "Seals are gay" "Sailors are guy, Navy **** !" you know what, the navy has the harest working soldiers of all time. (Army slacks, and so does parts of navy, but not SF. There always practicing.
87Ranger,
(Army slacks, and so does parts of navy, but not SF. There always practicing.
And your experience to back up these claims of yours is???
BTW, on at NSC we would like see your creds to call yourself a Ranger. When did you go through RIP and what Bn are you with, did you get to go to Ranger School?? Black belts don't mean squat when it comes to "operating". Again, please enlighten us as to your qualifications to throw so much BS around our forums.
A62 out
Doc76
02-26-2005, 08:29 AM
I was going to jump on him but my internet kung foo is off today. I know hes full of s h i t though.
Doc76
SGTROCK
02-26-2005, 09:31 AM
Scrolled Rangers can go to ARC(Amphibious Recon course,in my day) and Recon Marines(the lucky ones can get a slot for Ranger school). Ranger school is without a doubt a kick in the nuts as is all SoF type schools no matter what branch of service.
BTW it is SEALs not Seals and Marine is in caps!
My best friend is SF and my boss. This guy has more spec ops knowledge in his little pinky then I do in my whole body and I have BTDT!!!!
Rock
robcc23
02-26-2005, 12:31 PM
There is no way this guy ever attended RIP, Ranger school or pre ranger, but I bet he hasnt missed any of the ranger challenge specials on t.v. and is an expert at HALO. He is an operator in his own mind.
nhlstar33
02-26-2005, 07:10 PM
TIME OUT, YOU SAID 60% DOR. FOR SEALs IN ONE WEEK ALONE (HELL WEEK) 85 % DOR. MARINES THINK YOUR THE STUFF, YOUR NOT. YES YOUR TRAINING MIGHT BE HARDER THAN BASIC NAVY BOOTCAMP. YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE COMPARED TO NAVY SEALs. BUD/s IS 27 FREAKING WEEKS LONG. WHY DONT YOU LET IT GO AND ADMIT THAT NAVY SEALs ARE MORE ELITE. THERE TRAINING WAS VOTED TOUGHEST MILITARY TRAINING IN THE WORLD.
Doc76
02-27-2005, 04:01 AM
I dont think think the SEALs need a 15 year old kid to stick up for them. You might notice that none of them responded due to the fact the they find this argument irrelevent.
Doc76
MARINES THINK YOUR THE STUFF, YOUR NOT. YES YOUR TRAINING MIGHT BE HARDER THAN BASIC NAVY BOOTCAMP. YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE COMPARED TO NAVY SEALs. BUD/s IS 27 FREAKING WEEKS LONG. WHY DONT YOU LET IT GO AND ADMIT THAT NAVY SEALs ARE MORE ELITE. THERE TRAINING WAS VOTED TOUGHEST MILITARY TRAINING IN THE WORLD.Listen up, you young 15-year old TURD -- using all CAPS is like SCREAMING at us; so, shut the hell up, as your profile say's you're wanting to be a SEAL!
Obviously, you are neither a SEAL nor a FORCE RECON MARINE -- this Forum is titled correctly; so don't bother running your ignorant tiny little mouth to any of us MARINES here, because we'll all jump dead in your $hit ... now; go back in your profile and remove the photo of the guy in a Navy uniform, as that is definitely not you!
future_frogmanstudd2
02-27-2005, 11:42 AM
Listen up, you young 15-year old TURD -- using all CAPS is like SCREAMING at us; so, shut the hell up, as your profile say's you're wanting to be a SEAL!
Obviously, you are neither a SEAL nor a FORCE RECON MARINE -- this Forum is titled correctly; so don't bother running your ignorant tiny little mouth to any of us MARINES here, because we'll all jump dead in your $hit ... now; go back in your profile and remove the photo of the guy in a Navy uniform, as that is definitely not you!
Hey E8 !!! over the past week I've learned its pointless (like there girls tits) to respond to idiots on this site cause they just keep comming back, and littering the boards with there know-it-all crap.....PS.Notice I resinded my posts on the "MARINES motto" forum.....Anyway this kid is just a loser that cant tell his a s s from his head, so I'll just let him rant on thinking how good he is......Peace man and gl....BTW iam gonna go broke if I offer any more freaking beer lol....Already owe you ,ROCK,USMC,and SAND lol......
MIKE out 10-4
future_frogmanstudd2
02-27-2005, 11:51 AM
Hey E8 BTW in that kid's pic thats dress blues,so he eather borrowed them or bought fake ones...also the rank badge is not on his left sholder......Totaly fake....
Height:
6'0
Weight:
142
Occupation:USNSCC
For 6 foot hes skinny as hell..Iam 5'10'' and 150 lbs and iam skinny as hell......O well just another impersonator....
Yeah, I know future -- $hitheads like him piss me off every so often, and I just have to call their ignorant *** out ... LOL; you do owe us alot of beer, dont'cha???
nhlstar33
02-27-2005, 06:35 PM
IF YOU WOULD NO ANYTHING ABOUT MILITARY, YOU WOULD NO ALL CAPS IS STANDERD MILITARY ISSUE. AND YES THAT IS ME IN THE PICTURE IDIOT ITS CALLED UNITED STATES NAVAL SEA CADET CORPS. I BET U I NO 2WICE THE AMOUNT U NO ABOUT NAVY SEALs. MY DAD IS ONE AND IVE BEEN STUDYING THEM SINCE AGE 7 SO KISS MY @SS.
nhlstar33
02-27-2005, 06:40 PM
MAN U GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF LITTLE MARINES WHO DONT KNOW ABOUT SEALs GO TO A MARINE PAGE. LOOK UP GREAT LAKES DIV. THATS MY DIV IF U DONT BELVIE ME.
nhlstar33
02-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Hold on, I respect the marines for what they are doing in Iraq. I can tell you what u need to no about Navy SEALs, do u think u can share information about Marines. I think it pretty dumb to argue over the internet. No i am no fake about the uniform picture.
nhlstar33
02-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Remember when u guys are retired, I will be out on the battle fielf fighting for u.
SGTROCK
02-28-2005, 12:49 AM
Remember when u guys are retired, I will be out on the battle fielf fighting for u.
STFU junior ASAP!!Ive got your IP addy and one more outburst from you and I will contact your Cadet command. Remember you have accomplished NOTHING in life and that cadet wannabe uniform dont mean **** to us that have BTDT! You need to keeo your piehole shut when talking to active or retired men on this board,maybe you just might learn something!
SGTROCK
MY DAD IS ONE AND IVE BEEN STUDYING THEM SINCE AGE 7 SO KISS MY @SS.
What was your dad's BUD/s class number, oh, enlightened one??
A62 out
future_frogmanstudd2
02-28-2005, 05:45 AM
What was your dad's BUD/s class number, oh, enlightened one??
A62 out
class -002900.......He sure showed respect to MARINES thats for sure, right out the window is were he showed it...PS kid the sea cadet corps isnt military, its a training program to get cadets accostomed to military life....When you sigh up and are going to ship out then you'll get some and I mean some respect from me, till then shut your mouth and give these well-earned MARINES a break..They have done more in there serving this country then you pro will ever do.......I repete this site has a MARNE RECON forum because MARK made it that way .If you have a problem with that take it to him , in the mean time butt off....
E8 Ya man I owe You ,Rock,Steve, and Sand lol ...Man when Iam making money I'll get you guys ya well-earned beer lol...
MIKE out 10-4
future_frogmanstudd2
02-28-2005, 05:50 AM
BTW nhlstar33 you better learn to spell before you harp about your great skill, and achievements.....BTW you dont have a Snow-balls chance in hell of making it to the SEAL teams.....An attitude towards MILITARY personal like you have shown here is gonna get you to McDonalds flipping burgers........Remember that next time you insult a former RECON MARINE......
skyhawk691
02-28-2005, 06:18 AM
I dont think think the SEALs need a 15 year old kid to stick up for them. You might notice that none of them responded due to the fact the they find this argument irrelevent.
Best Laugh I've had all Day......Way to Go....Doc.........E8MC......LMAO......
Get Some ROCK........LoL
Doc76
02-28-2005, 06:24 AM
What the hell is fielf, a french elf? You gonna be on one, damn your kinky.
Doc76
Remember when u guys are retired, I will be out on the battle fielf fighting for u.
That's easy Doc76 --- all MARINES and SEAL's know that you can only get a "fielf" at your local NAVAL SEA CADET CORPS!
ROTFLMAO -- heh heh heh.......
Doc76
02-28-2005, 10:11 AM
Good thing I was in Royal Canadian Air Cadets When I was a youngun.
Doc76
nhlstar33
02-28-2005, 10:32 AM
I have no freakin clue....
nhlstar33
02-28-2005, 10:37 AM
What ever, ill just get out of here. There is no way I can ever really disrespect any military personal. I just not really fond of Marines. Also im not just ganna be a SEAL I want to be an CIA clandestine operative. I leave in 12 grade for training. Sorry for any disrespect ive shown you.
blueskies14k
02-28-2005, 10:58 AM
THERE TRAINING WAS VOTED TOUGHEST MILITARY TRAINING IN THE WORLD.
I didn't know they were polling. I would have voted for the Coast Guard, just to shake things up a little.
SpecOps is not the Pepsi/Coke taste-off.
As far as your petty nit-picking about percentages---there have been BUD/s classes with 0 graduates and then there have been some great classes with 50% grads.
In closing---if you ever spend any time around operators you will see that real-world experience means a lot more then just about anything.
I would be willing to bet that a SEAL would rather go in with an SF guy with tons of trigger time, than a SEAL fresh out of SQT anyday.
PS
They don't teach you the cool sh^t in BUD/s
future_frogmanstudd2
02-28-2005, 11:03 AM
What ever, ill just get out of here. There is no way I can ever really disrespect any military personal. I just not really fond of Marines. Also im not just ganna be a SEAL I want to be an CIA clandestine operative. I leave in 12 grade for training. Sorry for any disrespect ive shown you.
Not to bust your bubble but disliking and insultin MARINES on a MARINE RECON forum isn't a very bright idea..But o I forget your still a little turp that dosent know his a s s from his brain .....
Also im not just ganna be a SEAL I want to be an CIA clandestine operative.
You want even make the cut to pass BUD/S kid...CIA? what the heck..Sure, you go have your little dreams and leave the MARINES alone...Ps learn at least some grammer in that school your going to ....
MIKE out 10-4
USMC_Steven
02-28-2005, 11:24 AM
Seriously, Mike's very right on this one -though disregarding his consistant insults... It's just too bazzare to leave a dissing comment in a Marine forum and not mean any disrespect. LOL too many people with their heads on backwards!
P.S. Mike stop worrying about peoples grammer man, it's really not a big deal! I'm gonna send you an email, Skip and I are trying to work up a community, Laters.
Gunny out
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 07:24 AM
Just one more question though, who is better the Navy SEALs or Marine Recon? Just want to see what you guys think. My buddy who wants to be a Marine, says ask any Marine and they will tell you that a regular soldier in the Marines (non SF) can waste a Navy SEAL. I find that highly un-likely.
future_frogmanstudd2
03-01-2005, 07:45 AM
Just one more question though, who is better the Navy SEALs or Marine Recon? Just want to see what you guys think. My buddy who wants to be a Marine, says ask any Marine and they will tell you that a regular soldier in the Marines (non SF) can waste a Navy SEAL. I find that highly un-likely.
First kick your self in the nuts for such a stupid que...Now comparing SF guys with other SF guya has been asked so meny freaking times its making my head spin.besides comparing SEALS too RECON is pointless there all good and do there job...As for a non SF and a SEAL who gives a dam? Get your head out of your butt and think for a min kid...Use it for something othere then a crap collector.....
Mike out 10-4
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 07:50 AM
u need to calm down man. My anwser to my question a Navy SEAL would destroy a standerd Marine. Who gives a damn? Well my friend does who thinks Marines would win. If its been asked so many times why are u flipping out, u should b used to it. Holy $hit
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 07:52 AM
By the way thats not how u spell it ........its "MANY" not "Meny" but what ever.....
grammer in that school your going to ....
<<<<<<<<<<<< did u
future_frogmanstudd2
03-01-2005, 08:06 AM
u need to calm down man. My anwser to my question a Navy SEAL would destroy a standerd Marine. Who gives a damn? Well my friend does who thinks Marines would win. If its been asked so many times why are u flipping out, u should b used to it. Holy $hit
Who gives a crap if a SEAL could waste a MARINE? that is not gonna win a war knowing if our guys could kill each other ..... Aparrentaly your friend is an A s s and needs to get a life,same as you......Iam pissed cause stupid idiots like you, keep asking it thats why...........There is no need to keep asking a que that is not gonna help anything, but make arguements..
USMC_Steven
03-01-2005, 09:30 AM
nhlstar33, both Special Forces have much to equally hard training. However, their specified objectivies are vastly different. For the most part Force Recons to my understanding do not perform underwater demolitions and etc. The Force Recons main title is for going behind enemy lines and gathering intel. Both Forces are trained to work under a stealth basis, but do different things. Neither is better than the other.
From the time I've had my membership with NSC, I've learned the reason why people so often see the Navy SEALs as better than any other Force out there is because their advertisment goes further than the others. How often do you see an adversisment or logo of the Green Barrets, Delta Force, Force Recon, etc, etc?
And don't worry about Mike, he just recently became a Marine so he's just got some sparks flying. He'll eventually learn to control them and know when it's nessesary to show them. Hope that answeres your questions. Good luck kido.
Gunny out
First of all:
a regular soldier in the Marines
There is no such thing. If you had an inkling of what you were taliking about, you would know this.
Secondly, we don't make the comparisons you would have us make because it is irrelevant. It don't mean nuthin.
A62 out
future_frogmanstudd2
03-01-2005, 10:57 AM
And don't worry about Mike, he just recently became a Marine so he's just got some sparks flying. He'll eventually learn to control them and know when it's nessesary to show them. Hope that answeres your questions. Good luck kido.
Gunny out
Hold on bro I never said I was a MARINE lol...Iam a NAVY boy lolz...dont know were ya got that intell but not from me ...
It don't mean nuthin....:D..."it's a 'Nam thing - don't mean nuttin..."
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 02:11 PM
Alright cool, but there is always a little rival with Marines and Navy. The only commercial I have ever saw for the SEALs is the discovery channel with class 234.( a commercial compared to the real thing)
USMC_Steven
03-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Hold on bro I never said I was a MARINE lol...Iam a NAVY boy lolz...dont know were ya got that intell but not from me ...
Woaaaaaaaa... WTF man, where did I get my intel? Okay, he's just recently became gay so don't worry about him! LOL.
Na, my worthless opinion says he's now discovering how many people in this world wont take their time to join any services and still plays the wannabe role. Mike respects his job and like any soldier likes taking a dump on those jockstrapping wimps. BUT he needs to learn to distinguish the difference between a wannabe and a Special Forces fan.
...Though his attitude is still inexcusable; don't be surprised when a soldier pulls a belligerent role!
USMC_Steven
03-01-2005, 03:01 PM
My buddy who wants to be a Marine, says ask any Marine and they will tell you that a regular soldier in the Marines (non SF) can waste a Navy SEAL. I find that highly un-likely.
Hummmm...I guess I didn't read that comment the first time. It's not even worth asking if you think every Marine out there has the same degree in martial arts because anything can happen during combat!!! Woops, did I burst a bubble there? (shrug) Typical!
A62-E8MC's quote: "It don't mean nuthin!" :D
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 04:02 PM
consider my bubble officialy bursted.....
future_frogmanstudd2
03-01-2005, 04:05 PM
Woaaaaaaaa... WTF man, where did I get my intel? Okay, he's just recently became gay so don't worry about him! LOL.
Na, my worthless opinion says he's now discovering how many people in this world wont take their time to join any services and still plays the wannabe role. Mike respects his job and like any soldier likes taking a dump on those jockstrapping wimps. BUT he needs to learn to distinguish the difference between a wannabe and a Special Forces fan.
...Though his attitude is still inexcusable; don't be surprised when a soldier pulls a belligerent role!
LMFAO lol its ok Steve you were just yanking ya crank while typing it I understand lol...Anyway these people that have to ask if a SEAL would kill a MARINE or vise-versa are people with about the iq of turd breath......Just my 2 cents........Hey what was that email you said you were sending??
nhlstar33
03-01-2005, 04:51 PM
FRIENDLY RIVALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MARINE VS. NAVY
Did u ever hear "Jar head" ................."USMC uncle sams misguieded children..." ...ect...
Let it go man
87Ranger
03-07-2005, 10:03 PM
And your experience to back up these claims of yours is???
BTW, on at NSC we would like see your creds to call yourself a Ranger. When did you go through RIP and what Bn are you with, did you get to go to Ranger School?? Black belts don't mean squat when it comes to "operating". Again, please enlighten us as to your qualifications to throw so much BS around our forums.
A62 out
Ha, wow! so much bashing on this site. How terrible. Amazing. Maybe it's just the catagory. Anyway, I never claimed myself to be a Ranger, where the hell did you get that from! I told you straight up, im still in high school. Ha! Black-Belt bashing. You don't know **** when it comes to spending 5 years learing tactical training...learning how to break backs, bust heads open, rips someones groin off and plunty of fun **** like that. Oh yea, its all tactical, ready to use on the street. None of this head lock walk away **** . You learn, and you learn good. You wanna get to your feet before someone's buddy takes a club to your head. You get to your ASAP. You learn knife and club techniques that really pay.
All i know, is that i got a buddy in the army, and he says that the reserves just sit around a lot and do **** . Same with nation guard, they practice monthy.
So A62 whats your story?
87Ranger
03-07-2005, 10:07 PM
PS.
Learn to pay attention, or re-read the form. Sounds like you got a brain of a ox.
Ranger out.
It's just a **** ing screen name. Jesus Christ!
So A62 whats your story?
Sonny boy, I am what you are not.BTDT.
Anyway, I never claimed myself to be a Ranger,
What is your call sign???? This is a military forum. When I see a person with a name like Ranger, SEAL etc, that's what I expect them to be. Cabish????? If you had read the rules when you signed up, you would know this.
Black-Belt bashing. You don't know **** when it comes to spending 5 years learing tactical training...learning how to break backs, bust heads open, rips someones groin off and plunty of fun **** like that. Oh yea, its all tactical, ready to use on the street. None of this head lock walk away **** . You learn, and you learn good. You wanna get to your feet before someone's buddy takes a club to your head. You get to your ASAP. You learn knife and club techniques that really pay.
Bwahahahahaha. This is some of the funniest **** I have read in ages. Hmmmm, well lets see, I started taking Ninuitsu in Kyoto Japan in 1956, long before they "Americanized" for you gaijin. It don't mean nuthin. Your a big tough guy that is NOT learning what you should from martial arts. You are looking for ways to "beat people up" which is not what it is all about. We are of course very impressed with your martial arts prowess..........NOT.
BTW, read my profile, that is my story and I'm stickin too it.LMAO
A62 out
Learn to pay attention, or re-read the form. Sounds like you got a brain of a ox.
Ranger out.You obviously aren't the brightest crayon in the box, MORON -- "IF" you're a SEAL (most of us REAL VETS can see that you're full of $hit by not having a profile for everyone to read) -- you'd know TO PAY ATTENTION and realize this is a FORCE RECON MARINE FORUM!!!
Seems to me, you flunked Sandbox and School Bus...
Mac679
03-08-2005, 12:01 PM
Ha! Black-Belt bashing. You don't know **** when it comes to spending 5 years learing tactical training...learning how to break backs, bust heads open, rips someones groin off and plunty of fun **** like that. Oh yea, its all tactical, ready to use on the street. None of this head lock walk away **** . You learn, and you learn good. You wanna get to your feet before someone's buddy takes a club to your head. You get to your ASAP. You learn knife and club techniques that really pay.
Now go don IBA with a full combat load, ACH, M16 or M4, full 3L camelbak, and crank the thermostat to 125 degs, do PT for about 15minutes and then try all that sh**. Tactical my ballsack....
All i know, is that i got a buddy in the army, and he says that the reserves just sit around a lot and do **** . Same with nation guard, they practice monthy.
Most of the NG and Reserve units I saw in Iraq did more than sit on their a**.
So A62 whats your story?
Try reading profiles....
A62,
Bravo Zulu my Brother.
It's cyber warriors like 87"Ranger" who really disgust me. So full of himself and his martial art training that he thinks his bovine excretment don't stink and he can talk down to a true warrior like you.It's people such as him that I would enjoy having a one on one discussion with.
I remember when I was stationed in Korea taking Tai Kwon Do classes from Grand Master Senei Shin. the firsr and most important things we had to learn was disapline and self control. When I read posts from young people like 87 ( I refuse to call him Ranger anymore ) I really wonder if that is still part of the instruction.
tvlr..................
I remember when I was stationed in Korea taking Tai Kwon Do classes from Grand Master Senei Shin. the firsr and most important things we had to learn was disapline and self control. When I read posts from young people like 87 ( I refuse to call him Ranger anymore ) I really wonder if that is still part of the instruction.Amen, Bro -- many Vets obtained our Martial Arts from the "Real Masters" overseas; 87 is living in a dream world, and apparently the self-discipline is no longer part of the AMERICAN CURRICULUM!
SENNA
03-09-2005, 09:32 AM
SEALS vs RECON or any other SF?
You tell me what tool is better a Hammer or a Wrench?
Answer: Depend on the job or the task you have to do.
And in the end, it doesn't really matter who the best his, because a 13 year old kid with a AK-47 in a third world country , with very little military training, could send a S.F. Soldier, home in a Human remain bag. And this wouldn't make the 13 year old kid a better Soldier, just a live one.
Just the 2 cents of a civilian.
Just the 2 cents of a civilian.From your profile, I'm assuming you've never served in the military -- your 2 cents worth?
13-yr old kids with an AK-47 is a "possibility" but not likely ... you'll find that in Hollywood primarily.
You keep racing, and leave the soldering to people who know what they're doing and talking about from previous experience ... now; give me a penny back. :D
SENNA
03-11-2005, 08:09 AM
... you'll find that in Hollywood primarily.
No Somalia.
No Somalia.
Ohhhhh - you know this from practical experience?
Did you parachute into the country?
Were 13-yr olds firing at you?
Did they have go-kart races there?
SENNA
03-11-2005, 09:00 AM
NO
Actually, i think i got my info, from a ex-soldier on this site. Next, time i will be more careful and make sure to double check. I overestimated his opinion, just because he his a Soldier.
Sorry again and thank you, I will keep an eye open. And won't take any more info from expert without second guessing it.
It's not because you are a good Soldier that you are an Expert on Warfare.
Thank again and have a good day.
skyhawk691
03-11-2005, 10:10 AM
Actually, i think i got my info, from a ex-soldier on this site. Next, time i will be more careful and make sure to double check. I overestimated his opinion, just because he his a Soldier.
E8MC, I think this KID has been watching ""BLACKHAWK DOWN"" to many times and
now he's a Warrior in his own MIND.......Skyhawk.........
LOL Skyhawk -- sounds like the BOY is a "Legend" in his own mind...err; what little there is...:D
SENNA
03-11-2005, 11:49 AM
You guy are just jealous, that i have a better looking uniform and that i can have my pick of any good looking Woman . (just kidding)
Anyhow, All this, because i dared too give an oppinion on this posting; " That it doesn't matter who the best his?"
Take it easy, i have alot of respect for what you guy's do or have done and the only reason, i come here is to better understand ,what make you guy better than average Civilian. And use this, to better myself has a person.
I don't want to start disrespecting Soldier, Special Force, Marine, ect... Because of a misunderstanding. But if you insult me, i will not sit in neutral and smile, i will but you into the wall. Exactly, Like you would do to me if you where beside me in a race.
The Next drink on me.
Drink up sonny -- you sound like a "certain female" on these Forums ... "Me love you long time".
blueskies14k
03-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Wow, E8; I am surprised you would call her a female.
Senna,
What is your home DZ? Are you rated? I have been in the sport for 5 years it's a small community---maybe we know mutual people.
Wow, E8; I am surprised you would call her a female.LOL - most of us still believe "IT" is a She-Male...:D
future_frogmanstudd2
03-12-2005, 03:26 AM
Now now Skip, I've been very nice not to say anything to "ITS" affect, After the Bout in another Marine forum. Anyways ya senna if its not from personal experiance, its better not to talk. Trust me I know...Ps.be good skipper or I'll blow the wistle lolz. the exercise wistle hehe...
SENNA
03-14-2005, 04:49 AM
Hey, Big Daddy,
This is your playground, your rule. I am not going to engage you here. But if you, want. let's go, to a neutral Battlefield. Where there is no rule of Engagement.
Actually i think you are ready for this, must be a drag for a Warrior Elite to play gate Keeper and protect your sandbox from 15 years old kid and she-male. Come on down "Big daddy " and play with war Veteran.
Meet me on the Onwar.com in the Forum section, Where ex-military and civilian Expert, hang-out and talk about war, tactic, strategy. There is a Vietnam section you should feel at home.
Actually i think you will enjoy the experience. But make sure you don't post crap like you do here. Because these guy really know there stuff. And they will Hammer you. BIG TIME
I will look for you on the battlefield. Make sure you use your same call name. I will use mine.
Come on down " big daddy" you are the next contestant on "i have a big mouth, when i am surrounded by my peers, but a ***** when i am alone"
{...yawn...} -- you're boring the hell outta me; keep working your 3 jobs, racing, and "studying military physical fitness" ... no one will "hammer" me about 'Nam; I don't need to prove anything to you nor anyone else, as my SRB has it all spelled out in detail.
Apparently, you've not noticed that all of us "REAL VETS" don't talk very much about our Viet-Nam esperiences ... I would imagine that you come here to copy Vet's stories, then you go over to your cute little "Onwar.com" Forum with our stories, beating your tiny little chest telling everyone how much of a "War Hero" you are.
I certainly possess the ability to stand alone without anyone around me; I'm not asking for anyone else to step into this skirmish with such a slimey little turd.
Run along little boy, and go play with Suzy Rottencrotch --- that's either your Momma; your Sister; or your old lady -- take your pick!...:)
SENNA
03-14-2005, 06:43 AM
I am not supprise by your no SHOW, Big Daddy. If you change your mind, i made a post over there for you.
I don't get you? Must be old age. This is suppose to be fun. Well i am having fun actually. Why do you feel treaten like this?
Anyhow Big-Daddy, I have to respect Forum Compliance, see you on another post.
Kewl -- go back; stay there; and post all you want...:D
Meet me on the Onwar.com in the Forum section, Where ex-military and civilian Expert, hang-out and talk about war, tactic, strategy.
All the experts???? Dam, must not be us. We ha ve only BTDT, but they know better.Bwhahahaha
There is a Vietnam section you should feel at home.
sonny, I feel at home anywhere I go, I'm kinda versatile that way.(comes wiht he bagage)LOL Gee, would you guys really let me an Top and Tvlr play??? Huh, Huh????
Top, I guess we ain't REAL men.Bwhahahaha
Because these guy really know there stuff. And they will Hammer you. BIG TIME
Yea, I'll bet. Uhm, you might want to check the creds of some of your hammerers(read REMFs).LMAO
A62 out
SENNA
03-14-2005, 12:34 PM
When you ask a question to find out who the best is? SEAL or Marine REcon.
It disqualified the answer of SEAL or Marine Recon, Because their answer his BIAS. Therefore an outsider is better place to answer this.
Fun and friendly bunch here. Maybe you should send a firing squad for this reply.
Anyhow, before i get in trouble. I find that their his three kind of poster on SEAL.com. The one that count and the other one that don't know how to count.
future_frogmanstudd2
03-14-2005, 01:55 PM
Anyhow, before i get in trouble. I find that their his three kind of poster on SEAL.com. The one that count and the other one that don't know how to count.
Hey lameass thats two types of people....Dammit your stupid, leave E8 alone loser or I'll kick your can myself...And besides its POSTERS not "poster" and it is IS not "his" and its NavySEALS.com Not "SEALS.com" ...Man for an older guy you sure are the jackass type..Ya real war vets don't say much about their encounters in war unless they feel the need to, not to look good in other losers eyes.....
It disqualified the answer of SEAL or Marine Recon, Because their answer his BIAS. Therefore an outsider is better place to answer this.
Were you jacking off, thinking of how smart you were, when you typed that sh!t?
skyhawk691
03-14-2005, 03:21 PM
Run along little boy, and go play with Suzy Rottencrotch --- that's either your Momma; your Sister; or your old lady -- take your pick!...:)
ROFLMAO.....Semen...He tore YOU a New A**hole son......What Don't you understand ???
{Give it up and Get Lost} .....Skyhawk....
SENNA
03-15-2005, 04:51 AM
I find that their his three kind of poster on SEAL.com. The one that count and the other one that don't know how to count.
Hey lameass thats two types of people....Dammit your stupid,
[/QUOTED]
Wow , nice sense of humor, it's a joke.
Now think about this, do you ask a Dallas Football player "Who the best Football team is? or do you ask an outsider? Do you seek a neutral adviser.
I would build a "MATRIX" to solve this, On one side, i would list all the strenght and weakness of both unit. Experience, Intelligence, Strenght, Training, Scope of mission that they can accomplish, ect... And in the end , the best Unit should stand out.
Now, I will leave you among your intellectual peers, so you can talk about how stupid this Senna his.
I would build a "MATRIX" to solve this, On one side, i would list all the strenght and weakness of both unit. Experience, Intelligence, Strenght, Training, Scope of mission that they can accomplish, ect... And in the end , the best Unit should stand out.
You will come up wqith an invalid answer. We are not discussing "logic".. How do you "rate" mission scope, training, etc. Once you introduce a scale, you have bias.Duh. does a "matrix' allow you to dismiss statistical error????
A62 out
I certainly possess the ability to stand alone without anyone around me; I'm not asking for anyone else to step into this skirmish with such a slimey little turd.
Xin Loi Top, but I just gotta jump in here.
Senna-------- you numb-nutted WIMP. You aint got a clue of what you are talking about. You can build your matrex, and you can make pretty little charts and graphs but the bottom line is that they don't mean nothing.
If you had just once seen the Elephant you would realize just how stupid you appear to us.
Go back to " onwar.com" where the real "Heros" are. I'm sure they have some real interesting stories with lots of blood and guts that you and others like you seem to thrive on. One thing for sure A-HO, you will NOT find that kind of crap here.
tvlr................
SENNA
03-15-2005, 07:59 AM
You will come up wqith an invalid answer. We are not discussing "logic".. How do you "rate" mission scope, training, etc. Once you introduce a scale, you have bias.Duh. does a "matrix' allow you to dismiss statistical error????
Now, that's an answer. Yes, you are right. It's not perfect. Yes, it his Bias, I didn't see it at first.
But, who is going to decide what goes in this Matrix? and also why should it belong there.
SIR you are an officer and a gentlemen.
I would build a "MATRIX" to solve this ... Now, I will leave you among your intellectual peers, so you can talk about how stupid this Senna his.LOL - you're not 42; more like 12 ... build your little MATRIX, and while you're at it, bring your little boy's over here from your other Forum ... yeah; we can see from how you structure sentences and spell, you aren't the brightest crayon in the box!. :D
SENNA
03-16-2005, 09:12 AM
You have no power over me. Nobody does. Because, the only power you or other have, his the one that i allow myself to give to you.
I have absolute control of my own thought. It is THIS that puts me in a position to control the way i react to your insult, to stressful condition (like a steering malfunction at 200 mph) . Survive the day and win the race.
I will focus and hold to that total connection until i WIN. That is the core of a RACER, (or a real Warrior like some of you) how he is made from the inside.
You will never, get the best of me. Myster "Big Daddy"
Heh heh - move along with your powerful little 20 mph soap-box Daddy built for you ... "Racer"... Marines and SEAL's travel in REAL Vehicles. :D
skyhawk691
03-16-2005, 07:13 PM
You have no power over me. Nobody does. Because, the only power you or other have, his the one that i allow myself to give to you.
I have absolute control of my own thought. It is THIS that puts me in a position to control the way i react to your insult, to stressful condition (like a steering malfunction at 200 mph) . Survive the day and win the race.
I will focus and hold to that total connection until i WIN. That is the core of a RACER, (or a real Warrior like some of you) how he is made from the inside.
You will never, get the best of me. Myster "Big Daddy"
SEMEN: Your Really getting Boring!!.....Just for giggles, What is your AGE? You "sound and spell" like a 5th
grader but your interacting like a 3 year old...Go back and READ YOUR POSTS...Is what I'm
saying TRUE????? If You CAN'T Conduct Yourself Correctly Then DON'T POST HERE......
Skyhawk.......
OddBall
03-21-2005, 02:20 PM
how different are the two???.....
I heard that SEALs were a department of the Navy, The mens department.
USMC_Steven
03-23-2005, 03:20 PM
I heard that SEALs were a department of the Navy, The mens department.
This is probably the only time you could say NAVY and MENS DEPARTMENT at the same time and have it be true. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
They should probably have a poster display stating the differences between the two branches/forces so we don't receive so many "SEALS vs RECON" questions!!!
mcar22
04-06-2005, 06:38 PM
I am not in the military in any way or am associated with the military in any way the only connection I have to the military is my grandfather and he was a Marine I was wanting to know if i could get some insight on what my path should be to getting in the marine recon units since I am still in high school
Graduate first -- then, come back and ask again.
skyhawk691
04-07-2005, 05:40 AM
I heard that SEALs were a department of the Navy, The mens department.
NOballs: Don't be coming in Here stirring up Trouble like you do on other Forums....If
you can't Conduct yourself Properly, Then STAY The Hell Out!!! Also
WE ALL KNOW YOU Have Been Descrating The WALL...
1st Warning: Watch Your A**..... Don't Play Around!!!
future_frogmanstudd2
04-07-2005, 07:05 AM
Graduate first -- then, come back and ask again.
Better advise, Talk to a recruter in your aera and if satisfied, join the DEP ( delayed entery program) for the MARINE CORPS, and then you should have a clear view, of your choices in the military......PS. Be good E8 I'm watching you lolz.
mcar22
04-07-2005, 02:08 PM
thanks i will probably do that and E8 i am gonna graduate so there is no rpoblems there
ReconTommy
04-07-2005, 03:17 PM
First off I am not a Navy Seal, nor was I a Recon or Force Recon Marine.
You are a ******* ..I would like to clarify. In my day most ARS or ARC students do make the grade, and almost every inhouse RIP candidate who has heart and listens will also pass. I have personaly hit people like you in a bar enviroment..sometimes with glass. I have seen ear jam come from a confrontation with bud students and Recon folk.
I am a beast, In my ex's testimony...she stated that I was an Army Ranger and X- marine sniper who could snap her neck at any time.
I will leave this alone.
Main point!!!!!
No other unit in the world can compete with Marine INF regulars. Marines do not need to be part of SOCOM, because they are the best. And yes, do not consume alcohol with a Recon Marine if your objective is to piss him off.
P.S. things that are hard!!!!
70 showed up at 1st MARDIV Sniper School (2/92)
No SEALS....were not allowed due to failure rate
No Army
No FBI
No LE , Orange County...yet will make compromise to use ranges, and will teach searching and restraining......great bunch of fellas
30 were accepted for class after screening
19 after qual
11 after field week/hell week
Ratio: 1 to 7 or 14%
No other school has that ratio. Some classes have been as little as 4 grads.
Yes you have to be something else to pass!
Semper Fi
Tommy
LOL -- hey, Tommy ... didn't know there was such a thing as an "X-Marine" ... more like "Former Marine". :D
skyhawk691
04-08-2005, 05:52 AM
Once a MARINE, ALWAYS a MARINE....Not as Lean, But Just as Mean......Skyhawk......
sandfrog
04-08-2005, 10:21 AM
ReconTommy Quote:
"No SEALS....were not allowed due to failure rate"
Dude, this is complete BS. Maybe back in the day SEALs weren't allowed in, but I guarantee you it wasn't because they thought we would quit. One of my best friends graduated from the Marine Sniper course in Pendleton @ '99 and I'm not even going to mention what he thought of your "baddest of the bad" course.
ReconTommy quote:
"I am a beast"
Uh...... ok dude.
ReconTommy Quote:
"No other unit in the world can compete with Marine INF regulars. Marines do not need to be part of SOCOM, because they are the best."
I'm not trying to get into a pissing match here because this is officially the GAYEST THREAD EVER on NSC, but damn dude, take the jar off your head and realize that there are bigger fish in your pond.
ReconTommy Quote:
"No other unit in the world can compete with Marine INF regulars. Marines do not need to be part of SOCOM, because they are the best."I'm with Sandfrog on this one -- Marines are not SEAL's, and vice-versa ... but, dammit, Boy -- Marines do "RESPECT" the Navy SEAL's for the training they go thru!!!
Sandfrog is a "CURRENT SEAL INSTRUCTOR" -- give him, and the other SEAL's the RESPECT THEY'VE RIGHTFULLY EARNED!!!
sandfrog
04-08-2005, 12:44 PM
SEALS vs. RECON = Mutual Respect.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
Thanks E8MC, I have many friends who are Instructors, but I never said I was one.
SEALS vs. RECON = Mutual Respect.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
Thanks E8MC, I have many friends who are Instructors, but I never said I was one.Hmmm -- we have a "mutual friend" who's a current State Trooper and former SEAL whom I've just recently spoken with by phone (you know who I'm talking about, but I won't reveal his identity here) ... I'm positive he said you were, or currently are a SEAL Instructor; apparently I misunderstood.
Either way -- I've always had respect for you Gentlemen, and always will!
sandfrog
04-09-2005, 08:15 AM
Shoot me an email and I'll give you the scoop. sandfrog@navyseals.com
ReconTommy
04-09-2005, 03:17 PM
I'm not trying to get into a pissing match here because this is officially the GAYEST THREAD EVER on NSC, but damn dude, take the jar off your head and realize that there are bigger fish in your pond.
You are right, miss read post. had a hard time following the context.
Info was based off of early 90's and is not a current sit. The current rate for SS school is now in the 50%
range to the best of my knowledge. And I also do want to get into a pissing match. SEALs Kick, and so do the Recon folk.
Semper Fi
Tommy
Doc76
04-10-2005, 03:20 AM
This is the post that never ends, it goes on and on my friends somebody posted it not knowing what' it start, and everyone continues posting here....................................
Doc76
future_frogmanstudd2
05-19-2005, 09:36 AM
This is the post that never ends, it goes on and on my friends somebody posted it not knowing what' it start, and everyone continues posting here....................................
Doc76
Too bad.....
Theres no need to worry about SEALS vs RECON, we can just watch wemon duke it out in the wemon in s-ops section , about wanting to be SEALS.....lol
future_frogmanstudd2
05-19-2005, 09:57 AM
E8 Ya man I owe You ,Rock,Steve, and Sand lol ...Man when Iam making money I'll get you guys ya well-earned beer lol...
MIKE out 10-4
LOL; you do owe us alot of beer, dont'cha???
I haven't forgottn lol....
Why did you, even receive a, password?
Can't even imagine your little secret word
for verification.
Why did you, even receive a, password?
Can't even imagine your little secret word
for verification.
Exactly, and I actually found out, that SEAL/s second matrice is
Esal! Which in Hebrew means, fire of God.......
skyhawk691
09-15-2005, 02:51 PM
Exactly, and I actually found out, that SEAL/s second matrice is
Esal! Which in Hebrew means, fire of God.......
[/QUOTED]
Somebody in ADMIN--Please BAN this LOONEY TUNE !!!!!!! He might hurt himself soon.....
I saw this post somewhere else, he's nothing
but copy and paste Master...
And youre, a complete liar... Anything/everything is capable of being
compared analyzed! Observation, then comes theory, and last of all is
the testing, its called the scientific method... Otherwise it wouldn't exist.
Since each doctrine is borrowed from another=similarities....
And youre, a complete liar... Anything/everything is capable of being
compared analyzed! Observation, then comes theory, and last of all is
the testing, its called the scientific method... Otherwise it wouldn't exist.
Since each doctrine is borrowed from another=similarities....
And youre, a complete liar... Anything/everything is capable of being
compared analyzed! Observation, then comes theory, and last of all is
the testing, its called the scientific method... Otherwise it wouldn't exist.
Since each doctrine is borrowed from another=similarities....
ForceRecon79
09-26-2005, 03:00 PM
Ha! Black-Belt bashing. You don't know **** when it comes to spending 5 years learing tactical training...learning how to break backs, bust heads open, rips someones groin off and plunty of fun **** like that. Oh yea, its all tactical, ready to use on the street. None of this head lock walk away **** . You learn, and you learn good. You wanna get to your feet before someone's buddy takes a club to your head. You get to your ASAP. You learn knife and club techniques that really pay.
Yeah, that's great. You must be a real dangerous guy knowing all that kung-fu.
Here is my guess. You are about 12 years old, you watch alot of Chuck Norris and Steven Segal movies and you have the delusion that you are a karate master.
one day when you are all grown up you will realize that life isn't a movie, and soldiers don't run around "Karate Chopping" terrorists. They shoot them, or drop a grenade on them, or call in an airstrike to trun them into crispy critters. So being a "Karate Boy" isn't really going to impress anyone. The only thing that impresses a Marine is another Marine or soldier who has put in the time, mastered the training, and fought alongside his friends...untill then you are pond scum, and not fit to post in this forum with the rest of us REAL JARHEADS!!!.
PS. My forte was always Wrestling, why don't you try that,
you watch alot of Chuck Norris and Steven Segal movies and you have the delusion that you are a karate master.
one day when you are all grown up you will realize that life isn't a movie, and soldiers don't run around "Karate Chopping" terrorists.Damn -- so, all of those movies I watched didn't help me? :D
ForceRecon79
09-26-2005, 07:00 PM
Yeah, I know.
If I got a belt for every time I have seen Missing In Action, Delta Force or Under Siege...I would be a real "Lethal Weapon" like ol "Karate Boy" is.