View Full Version : Heavy Running?
ANUBIS-
09-14-2004, 07:32 AM
I've been doing the warning order and I have a few qusetions. Are you supposed to keep the 8:30 pace for the whole workout (all 9 weeks)? Also does anyone see anything wrong with running with 35lbs. of gear? It dosent hurt and I feel great when im done. Im adding five pounds every 2 weeks the only problem is sometimes when I do the pushups I cant get back up right away I have to rest for a couple first, kinda slows down the pace of my workout. I just want to be sure its helping not hindering.
DMANN
09-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Sounds like its hindering or is gonna be i would maybe lay off the running with gear. If you have to ask if its bad then yeah its bad. Not sure how much you weight but rule of thumb no more then 40% of your body weight. And as for running and keeping an 830 pace are you doing all your runs with something on your back if so you will hurt your self for sure but if its "normal" running then do what ever feels comfortable 830 is probably something they felt was resonable for most people ive personally never run that slow im usually in the 7 min area and thats comfortable for me so do whats comfortable for you.
TOMcatXENO
09-14-2004, 10:47 PM
running is already bad for your joints I wouldnt add more weight.Just go to the gym and lift
ANUBIS-
09-15-2004, 06:52 AM
Yeah, thats the problem. I just figured that you have to do it in BUD/S so I'd start early and get used to it. I also dont want to get hurt before i get there.
Juggernaught
10-03-2004, 04:37 AM
First of all I want to say that I'm not and have never been to BUD/S...yet! But, In all of the documents I've watched on the running at BUD/S, they do not wear weighted packs until the third phase. First of all it would be dangerous for a person to come in and be carrying a 35 lb. sack while runnig 4 miles during Hell Week. In all reality, I wasn't really sure what you meant about pushups...are you doing them with the weighted pack on? If that's true, it seems likeyou could do it. I guess it would be like baseball; when you're in the on-deck circle you swing a weighted bat, then take it off and go into the batter's box and it feels like you're swinging the bat 1,000 miles per hour. Actually, this workout w/ the pack is just a complete no-no whatsoever, I mean you'll never REALLY feel the benifit of it when you're doing the PST, so why take the risk of causing yourself pain before the PST and ultimately BUD/S. Like some of them said, just go to the weightroom and pump some Iron, It will take off fat and also help you with your push-ups. But ultimately the only answer to getting better at running and push-ups is to actually do them...and drop the weighted sack. Good luck though.
ThurstonHowell
10-04-2004, 09:40 AM
I wouldnt run with wieght more than once a week and even then only if you've been running for a long time. Its not that important, but if your already in good shape it wont hurt. Finding some soft sand to run in would help more than the weights though.
ANUBIS-
10-06-2004, 10:34 AM
So, soft sand is good to run in? This other site said not to run in sand it causes stress fractures. I personally would rather run in the sand than the boardwalks. I dont know if its safe (buckroe beach poo water....eeww) the beach where im at is nasty. Oh, thanks for the input I appreciate when a BTDT takes the time to help.
This other site said not to run in sand it causes stress fractures
hrm.. i alwayz heard that running in the grass/sand etc... was better then concrete/ roads etc... as far as stress fractures go... anyone got a definate answer to clear this up? =/
Hinthial
10-07-2004, 06:22 AM
Not a SEAL here, but this is what I have heard previously on this site.
As Sealpup and other SEALs have said many times, running on sand is very difficult and does cause stress fractures. However, where are you running in BUD/S? On sand, so you might as well have your legs already conditioned for it if you can. Unfortunately for me, we don't have alot of sand out here in Montana, so I guess snow will have to do.
Hinthial
Barratiero
10-14-2004, 12:15 AM
running is already bad for your joints I wouldnt add more weight.Just go to the gym and lift
its good to prepare with weight on your back. phase 3 buds 10 mile run with 40-50 pound back pack full of sand. the backpack runs will really help build your legs
kenny555
10-17-2004, 02:38 PM
i train with a guy who was in BUD/S he runs with a 35 pound ruck sack on every run.
medicnblack
07-07-2005, 08:32 PM
Good shoes to absorb impact are the deal,..running on softer surfaces will reduce the stress impact to knees/hips/ankles etc. But the extreme of running on soft sand frequently, means a risk of shin splints and a few other probs. Not good prior to BUD/S,.......
blueskies14k
07-08-2005, 01:34 PM
Welcome to the boards, Medic. It's good to have someone with that knowledge around, but I have to disagree with some of this advice.
Good shoes to absorb impact are the deal
These dudes are on their way to BUD/S, and running in boots is the only way to prepare for the amount of stress in the BUD/S running schedule. There are no NIKEs in BUD/S.
But the extreme of running on soft sand frequently, means a risk of shin splints and a few other probs.
Again, I think these guys need to start conditioning their legs now. Getting shin splints in BUD/S could mean rollbacks----now's the time get them ready.
Good answer bud, this guys need to get ready and that's not a joke. Run in soft sand as much as possible, you will get shin splints even if you run on grass, if you are doing the runs at the recommended speed and distance every day you will get the shin splint if you are not use to running so much for so long. Get ready now and try to take care of the shin splint, if they hurt too much rest or go to the doctor and put ice on it and do exercise for the shin splints. You would have to ask someone at a pro gym around your areas about exercising your tibialis muscles to prevent shin splint. When I was there oh man all the guys that weren’t use to running in the sand so far for so long they all got shin splint, lol that was funny, not really. Well just do the exercise and run on the soft sand and the treadmill in the gym. Don’t lift too much weight because you are not going to until you pass hell week. Just do enough to keep you in shape and do a lot I mean a lot of pull-ups, sit-ups, dips and push-ups and swim, swim and swim a lot.
Well good luck to all and I hope those guys that deserve to be SEALs, make it.
Note: Oh, I couldn’t finish ‘cause I had med problems, but most of my buds made it through and they are happy like hell, jajaja. That was class 250; I had fun and when I get another chance, oh boy! You bet I will be there. Good luck to all and hope to see you there.
Check out their official website.
http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/bec_civilian.asp
hyksht
08-09-2005, 11:28 AM
i've done some serious mileage, eng soft sand and never received any splints whatsoever...
Shin problems come from lazy out of shape glamor runners...
seymour_butts123
08-09-2005, 11:31 AM
And college dropouts come from people who can't spell.
seymour_butts123
08-09-2005, 11:31 AM
And college dropouts come from people who can't spell.
lelee28
08-09-2005, 05:44 PM
Shin problems come from lazy out of shape glamor runners...
That is not true, maybe you should do some research before you open your mouth next time.
Shin problems come from lazy out of shape glamor runners...
This from a person that never went. BTW, tell that horse **** to my son. He DID complete BUD/s and still has problems with splints in the sand. If you don't know WTF your talking about, then STFU, skippy
A62 out
snow85
08-10-2005, 09:24 AM
i've done some serious mileage, eng soft sand and never received any splints whatsoever...
Shin problems come from lazy out of shape glamor runners...
serious mileage? 2, 3? running to get a moon pie?
spelling bee:
running on extremely soft surfaces, such as sand, can cause shin splints. it can also cause serious, and multiple stress fractures of the foot and lower leg. some people are more prone to them than others, which is why you shouldn't just go out and run 14 miles on the beach. these injuries happen due to the torque and torsion forces being exerted on the legs, and the bones not being able to 'bounce' back' to their original form. repeated stress only perpuates the cycle, with no time for the healing process to occur. unlike your spelling, this problem is definitely not from laziness. fix it, and maybe you can get a pony. you shouldn't get shin splints running that down the beach, glamour shot.